From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40592 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: any tips for how to tune Gnus/emacs for low memory usage? Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:02:38 +0100 Organization: Denizens of Doom, Norway Chapter Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87oflmh5oq.fsf@bang.priv.no> References: <87snb2tyku.fsf@bang.priv.no> <87pu65xkj0.fsf@bang.priv.no> <87n118qp5z.fsf@lackawana.kippona.com> <01Nov27.141344est.119179@gateway.intersystems.com> <15363.59869.835861.394831@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <15363.62049.590604.254123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176119 1767 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:55:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 20135 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2001 23:05:23 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2001 23:05:23 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 169Dkm-0007vE-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:04:32 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:04:16 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03296 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:04:00 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 20124 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 2001 23:04:11 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 20119 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2001 23:04:10 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (HELO quimby2.netfonds.no) (195.204.10.66) by gnus.org with SMTP; 28 Nov 2001 23:04:10 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby2.netfonds.no with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 169DlB-0002wt-00 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:04:57 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 48 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: c96s55h3.upc.chello.no Original-X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1006988697 11338 213.46.211.96 (28 Nov 2001 23:04:57 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Nov 2001 23:04:57 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40592 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40592 >>>>> luis fernandes : >>>>> Robin S Socha writes: >> http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/ > Ummm....more like: > http://ratpoison.sourceforge.net/ In debian woody, it was easy to try them out: apt-get install ion ratpoison installed them, and made them available as KDM alternatives. First impression of ratpoison: I never got anything to happend with any of the commands listed in the man page. I eventually crashed out of the session, and back into KDM, but with the display trashed and no cursor, and no response from Ctrl-Alt-Fx for switching between virtual consoles. I logged in from a different machine and first tried restarting KDM, which made no difference (ie. still trashed screen, and still no cursor, and still frozen keyboard). I stopped KDM, but the display was still the frozen KDM display. I did a halt on the machine, which cut the connection to the other machine, but didn't change the display. I turned the power off, and then back on, and the laptop booted normally. I think ratpoison is probably not for me...:-) First impression of ion: spartan, but the commands I needed were simple and easy to remember (F3, F12, M-k n, M-k p). I'm running ion right now, with an emacs, a top running in an xterm, and opera. The advantages for me with this approach, compared to just running emacs in a virtual console, are: - things look better - the keyboard commands to emacs work better here than in the virtual console - I can click on a URL to have it opened in opera. One problem here, is that instead of being displayed in an existing opera process, like it happens in icewm, a new opera process is started when I click on a link Disadvantages: - no clock always on screen like icewm, and KDE has - no load indicator always on screen like icewm has