From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/28148 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Florian Weimer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: de .* and gnus-group-posting-charset-alist Date: 12 Dec 1999 12:15:23 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87ogbwjtpw.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035165048 28385 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:50:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06834 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:36:09 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAB30354; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:36:05 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:36:06 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10990 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:35:56 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mail.cid.net (mail@cephyr.cid.net [195.35.45.193]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06827 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:35:34 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from uucp by mail.cid.net (Exim 3.03) with local-bsmtp id 11xDqS-0006b9-00; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:35:44 +0100 Original-Received: from deneb.cygnus.argh.org ([192.168.1.2] ident=root) by cygnus.argh.org with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11xDjt-0000CL-00 for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:28:57 +0100 Original-Received: from fw by deneb.cygnus.argh.org with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11x6yK-0002WW-00 for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:15:24 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Per Abrahamsen's message of "12 Dec 1999 12:07:13 +0100" Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.4 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by sclp3.sclp.com id NAA06834 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28148 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28148 Per Abrahamsen writes: > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes: > > > I discussed with the guys in de.comm.software.newsreader, and they > > explained to me that Latin 1 chars in headers must be escaped > > Well, using QP in headers _used to_ cause all sorts of problems, and > getting you seriously flamed in most European hierarchies. No one has flamed me for using QP yet. However, people did complain when I posted in UTF-8, though. ;) > However, maybe the consensus has changed. I believe Free Agent is > the last significant newsreader without QP decoding, Most of the wannabe newsreaders don't handle QP either. IMHO, undeclared 8-bit characters are still less problematic. But generating them is an RFC infringement (and as such, quite unpopular in de.*). > and the latest statistics for the dk hierarchy put it behind Agent > in popularity. Last time I saw someone complain about QP in > headers, he was told it was his own problem for using Free Agent > instead of buying Agent ($29). Free Agent doesn't seem to be a problem any more, because you can buy Agent again. (I think the developers have discontinued from discontinuing it).