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[71.190.212.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h65sm478608qkc.128.2021.04.08.15.32.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 08 Apr 2021 15:32:55 -0700 (PDT) From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com X-Google-Original-From: ding@gnus.org To: Garjola Dindi Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: RSS in Gnus - elfeed backend? References: <871rbuql96.fsf@pc-117-162.ovh.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2021 18:32:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871rbuql96.fsf@pc-117-162.ovh.com> (Garjola Dindi's message of "Thu, 01 Apr 2021 13:47:49 +0200") Message-ID: <87pmz4z9t5.fsf@dick> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk An elfeed backend solves nothing since gnus's fetch-update loop is strictly synchronous. Attempting to foist the update half in elfeed's asynchronous callback would end disastrously since gnus is all global variables all the time. Two options: 1. Run gnus in a separate emacs process separate from your other work, i.e., create a menu item in your windows manager as `emacs -f gnus`, which is what I do. 2. Run a non-blocking version of gnus implemented [here](https://github.com/dickmao/gnus).