From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88264 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nntp servers with multibyte group names? Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 13:07:11 -0800 Message-ID: <87pnuq5iww.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87tvk270sn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87in0i5l6h.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87ftvm6zmn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87efb65kf6.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <871s766y2z.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875zwi5j4x.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1543352732 17861 195.159.176.226 (27 Nov 2018 21:05:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 21:05:32 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36474@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 27 22:05:27 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkXv-0004WT-JE for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:05:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkZt-0008Dl-PA; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:07:29 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkZl-0008Au-9C for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:07:21 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkZj-0003Hs-P8 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:07:21 -0600 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkZi-00074w-J9 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:07:18 +0100 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gRkXa-00042L-M7 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:05:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:uAT5NDXDo1RjUUmidxoN5ioxVkU= X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.4.2 2018-09-13) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0414 Ham tokens: 0.000-185--7055h-0s--0d--H*M:fsf, 0.000-97--3694h-0s--0d--subset, 0.000-36--1344h-0s--0d--H*UA:Emacs, 0.000-35--1326h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-31--1172h-0s--0d--Sounds Spam tokens: 0.997-34845--662h-28023s--0d--H*r:quimby.gnus.org, 0.995-35858--1072h-29146s--0d--HTo:D*gnus.org, 0.994-36999--1167h-30122s--0d--Hx-spam-relays-external:quimby.gnus.org, 0.994-36999--1167h-30122s--0d--H*RU:quimby.gnus.org, 0.994-36949--1357h-30232s--0d--H*RT:80.91.231.51 Autolearn status: no autolearn_force=no -0.5 BAYES_05 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 1 to 5% [score: 0.0414] 0.0 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88264 Archived-At: Adam Sjøgren writes: > Eric writes: > >>> I was curious to find the answer, as I apparently have a hobby of >>> implementing an nntp-interface on average every half a decade :-) >> >> Sounds like... fun. But it also sounds like you might be able to answer >> some of my questions! > > It is (I like using nntp for e.g. RSS/Atom feeds, and the nntp-model > fits a suprising number of things)! But I have just been either ignoring > the problem or assuming that everything is utf-8. > >>> Why not assume utf-8 (of which ascii is a subset, I believe)? >> >> I am miserable at encoding-related programming, it's something I've >> never really had to deal with, and I don't grok it. > > I don't understand encoding it works in Emacs at all, so I will have to > defer to someone/where who does. > > Having an ø in my last name used to be a challenge. These days things > are converging on "utf-8 or broken" as far as I can tell. > >> Thanks for any light you're willing to shed! > > Sorry I can't be of any help... No worries, I really should just float this on emacs.help... Thanks, Eric