* Re: Quick survey of gnus-server-alist
2017-10-15 21:22 Quick survey of gnus-server-alist Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2017-10-16 5:57 ` Eric S Fraga
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From: Eric S Fraga @ 2017-10-16 5:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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On Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 23:22, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
> server?
Mine does have more information but it is out of date (by quite a few
years) and does not match my current server configuration in any way.
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2017-10-17 6:32 ` Eric S Fraga
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2017-10-16 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
> On Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 23:22, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
>> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
>> server?
>
> Mine does have more information but it is out of date (by quite a few
> years) and does not match my current server configuration in any way.
Do you see these servers in the *Server* buffer?
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* Re: Quick survey of gnus-server-alist
2017-10-16 15:39 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2017-10-17 6:32 ` Eric S Fraga
2017-10-17 14:51 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Eric S Fraga @ 2017-10-17 6:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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On Monday, 16 Oct 2017 at 08:39, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> On Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 23:22, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>>> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
>>> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
>>> server?
>>
>> Mine does have more information but it is out of date (by quite a few
>> years) and does not match my current server configuration in any way.
>
> Do you see these servers in the *Server* buffer?
Yes. But it's not that I want them there. They are all closed. I
suppose I can remove them somehow from the server buffer but my approach
to gnus has always been to leave well enough alone... ;-)
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* Re: Quick survey of gnus-server-alist
2017-10-17 6:32 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2017-10-17 14:51 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2017-10-17 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
> On Monday, 16 Oct 2017 at 08:39, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>>
>>> On Sunday, 15 Oct 2017 at 23:22, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>>>> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
>>>> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
>>>> server?
>>>
>>> Mine does have more information but it is out of date (by quite a few
>>> years) and does not match my current server configuration in any way.
>>
>> Do you see these servers in the *Server* buffer?
>
> Yes. But it's not that I want them there. They are all closed. I
> suppose I can remove them somehow from the server buffer but my approach
> to gnus has always been to leave well enough alone... ;-)
While I'm 100% in agreement with this principle, I think you've be safe
to hit "k" on those servers and get rid of them (after checking they
don't contain any groups you actually want, of course).
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* Re: Quick survey of gnus-server-alist
2017-10-15 21:22 Quick survey of gnus-server-alist Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Robert Pluim @ 2017-10-16 7:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> I'm trying to figure out how all the variables that hold Gnus' servers
> actually work. `gnus-server-alist' looks like it's meant to be a fairly
> authoritative list, but in my case it has never held anything but the
> archive server.
>
> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
> server?
>
Mine holds only the archive server.
> It looks like `gnus-server-method-cache' ends up actually holding the
> information that would also have gone in `gnus-server-alist'.
I see the same thing.
Robert
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From: Julien Danjou @ 2017-10-16 7:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: ding
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On Sun, Oct 15 2017, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
> server?
Nop, just the archive server.
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From: Dan Christensen @ 2017-10-16 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Mine has:
gnus-server-alist is a variable defined in `gnus.el'.
Its value is (("" nnfolder "")
("news.gmane.org" nntp "news.gmane.org"))
I believe both are valid servers that I use.
Dan
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From: Dave Marquardt @ 2017-10-16 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: ding
Mine has all of my servers in it. I connect to 4 servers plus the
archive "server". For IMAP and NNTP servers, it shows the server,
port, and some other connection information,
i.e. nntp-open-connection-function for an NNTP server.
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On Sun, Oct 15 2017, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how all the variables that hold Gnus' servers
actually work. `gnus-server-alist' looks like it's meant to be a fairly
authoritative list, but in my case it has never held anything but the
archive server.
If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
server?
It looks like `gnus-server-method-cache' ends up actually holding the
information that would also have gone in `gnus-server-alist'.
Anyway, I hope some of you will humor me!
Eric
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2017-10-16 13:12 ` Dave Marquardt
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2017-10-18 12:54 ` Dave Marquardt
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2017-10-17 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Dave Marquardt <davemarq@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
> Mine has all of my servers in it. I connect to 4 servers plus the
> archive "server". For IMAP and NNTP servers, it shows the server,
> port, and some other connection information,
> i.e. nntp-open-connection-function for an NNTP server.
Thanks, Dave. Just to confirm: you did add all these servers using "a"
in the Server buffer, right?
Eric
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* Re: Quick survey of gnus-server-alist
2017-10-17 16:32 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2017-10-18 12:54 ` Dave Marquardt
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From: Dave Marquardt @ 2017-10-18 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: ding
Yes, I added these in the Server buffer.
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On Tue, Oct 17 2017, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
Dave Marquardt <davemarq@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
> Mine has all of my servers in it. I connect to 4 servers plus the
> archive "server". For IMAP and NNTP servers, it shows the server,
> port, and some other connection information,
> i.e. nntp-open-connection-function for an NNTP server.
Thanks, Dave. Just to confirm: you did add all these servers using "a"
in the Server buffer, right?
Eric
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From: Peter Davis @ 2017-10-16 14:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen, ding
Mine just has:
gnus-server-alist is a variable defined in ‘gnus.el’.
Its value is (("archive" nnfolder "archive"
(nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive")
(nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
(nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
(nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)))
though, in fact, I get my mail from an external IMAP server. That seems
to be getting defined in gnus-select-method in my .gnus.el
-pd
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From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2017-10-16 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Eric writes:
> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
> server?
Mine contains:
,----[ C-h v gnus-server-alist RET ]
| gnus-server-alist is a variable defined in ‘gnus.el’.
| Its value is
| (("archive" nnml "archive"
| (nnml-directory "~/Mail/archive")
| (nnml-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
| (nnml-get-new-mail nil)
| (nnml-inhibit-expiry t)))
|
| Documentation:
| List of available servers.
`----
> It looks like `gnus-server-method-cache' ends up actually holding the
> information that would also have gone in `gnus-server-alist'.
I've got:
,----[ C-h v gnus-server-method-cache RET ]
| gnus-server-method-cache is a variable defined in ‘gnus.el’.
| Its value is shown below.
|
| Documentation:
| Not documented as a variable.
|
| Value:
| (("nndraft" nndraft #1="")
| ("nnml" . #2=(nnml #1#
| (nnir-search-engine notmuch)))
| ("native" nnnil)
| ("nnml:" . #2#)
| ("nntp:gm" nntp "gm"
| (nntp-address "news.gmane.org"))
| ("nntp:fb" nntp "fb"
| (nntp-open-connection-function nntp-open-tls-stream)
| (nntp-port-number 563)
| (nntp-address "feedbase.org"))
| ("archive" nnml "archive"
| (nnml-directory "~/Mail/archive")
| (nnml-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
| (nnml-get-new-mail nil)
| (nnml-inhibit-expiry t)))
`----
Best regards,
Adam
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From: Norman Walsh @ 2017-10-16 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> Anyway, I hope some of you will humor me!
I’ve got:
gnus-server-alist
(("archive" nnml "") ("" nnmbox "") ("nntp.charter.net" nntp "nntp.charter.net"))
gnus-server-method-cache
(("nnml:" nnml "") ("nndraft" nndraft "") ("native" nnml "") ("nndiary" nndiary "") ("archive" nnml ""))
That nntp address is probably a decade out of date. OTOH, I probably
haven’t tried to use Usenet since that used to work, so…
Be seeing you,
norm
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2017-10-16 15:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Thanks to you all! That was enough information to solve the mystery:
gnus-server-alist holds servers automatically created by Gnus, *plus*
the servers that you've created using "a" in the *Server* buffer. Not
the servers you've defined in your gnus.el.
Which makes sense: gnus-server-alist is kept in newsrc.eld, and takes
care of saving servers that you've created through the Gnus interface.
It doesn't touch servers you've defined yourself using
select-method/secondary-select-methods in gnus.el.
This is important as I look at turning servers into actual class
objects.
More docstrings and better errors are in order!
Thanks again to everyone,
Eric
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From: Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo @ 2017-10-17 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Eric Abrahamsen writes:
> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity
> -- does that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but
> the archive server?
Mine is nil, but that's most certainly because I set
gnus-message-archive-method to nil. (Because I use gmail, I
archive by sending to the All Mail group)
Best,
--
Jorge.
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From: Steinar Bang @ 2017-10-17 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>:
> I'm trying to figure out how all the variables that hold Gnus' servers
> actually work. `gnus-server-alist' looks like it's meant to be a fairly
> authoritative list, but in my case it has never held anything but the
> archive server.
> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
> server?
Here is my value of gnus-server-method-cache (slightly anonymized):
Value: (("nnml" nnml "")
("nndraft" nndraft "")
("nntp:news.gwene.org" nntp "news.gwene.org")
("nndiary" nndiary "")
("ger.gmane.org" nntp "ger.gmane.org")
("nntp.dod.no" nntp "nntp.dod.no")
("native" nntp "news"
(nntp-address "nntp.dod.no"))
("nntp:news.gmane.org" nntp "news.gmane.org")
("nnimap:privat" nnimap "privat"
(nnimap-address "imap.mydomain.no")
(nnimap-authenticator cram-md5)
(nnimap-server-port 993)
(nnimap-stream ssl))
("archive" nnfolder "archive"
(nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive")
(nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
(nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
(nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)))
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From: Tim Landscheidt @ 2017-10-17 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out how all the variables that hold Gnus' servers
> actually work. `gnus-server-alist' looks like it's meant to be a fairly
> authoritative list, but in my case it has never held anything but the
> archive server.
> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
> server?
> It looks like `gnus-server-method-cache' ends up actually holding the
> information that would also have gone in `gnus-server-alist'.
> Anyway, I hope some of you will humor me!
| ELISP> gnus-server-alist
| (("archive" nnfolder "archive"
| (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive")
| (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
| (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
| (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))
| ("nntp.perl.org" nntp "nntp.perl.org")
| ("news.fernuni-hagen.de" nntp "news.fernuni-hagen.de")
| ("news.individual.de" nntp "news.individual.de")
| ("news.gnus.org" nntp "news.gnus.org")
| ("news.gmane.org" nntp "news.gmane.org"))
| ELISP> gnus-server-method-cache
| (("nnml:private" nnml "private")
| ("news.gnus.org" nntp "news.gnus.org")
| ("nntp.perl.org" nntp "nntp.perl.org")
| ("native" nnml "private")
| ("news.individual.de" nntp "news.individual.de")
| ("news.gmane.org" nntp "news.gmane.org")
| ("archive" nnfolder "archive"
| (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive")
| (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
| (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
| (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)))
| ELISP>
Tim
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2017-10-17 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Tim Landscheidt <tim@tim-landscheidt.de> writes:
> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to figure out how all the variables that hold Gnus' servers
>> actually work. `gnus-server-alist' looks like it's meant to be a fairly
>> authoritative list, but in my case it has never held anything but the
>> archive server.
>
>> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
>> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
>> server?
>
>> It looks like `gnus-server-method-cache' ends up actually holding the
>> information that would also have gone in `gnus-server-alist'.
>
>> Anyway, I hope some of you will humor me!
>
> | ELISP> gnus-server-alist
> | (("archive" nnfolder "archive"
> | (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive")
> | (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
> | (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
> | (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))
> | ("nntp.perl.org" nntp "nntp.perl.org")
> | ("news.fernuni-hagen.de" nntp "news.fernuni-hagen.de")
> | ("news.individual.de" nntp "news.individual.de")
> | ("news.gnus.org" nntp "news.gnus.org")
> | ("news.gmane.org" nntp "news.gmane.org"))
>
> | ELISP> gnus-server-method-cache
> | (("nnml:private" nnml "private")
> | ("news.gnus.org" nntp "news.gnus.org")
> | ("nntp.perl.org" nntp "nntp.perl.org")
> | ("native" nnml "private")
> | ("news.individual.de" nntp "news.individual.de")
> | ("news.gmane.org" nntp "news.gmane.org")
> | ("archive" nnfolder "archive"
> | (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive")
> | (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
> | (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
> | (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)))
>
> | ELISP>
>
> Tim
Okay, thanks to you all! I think that's enough data points :)
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2017-10-18 16:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-10-19 12:08 ` Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
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From: Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2017-10-18 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Sun, Oct 15 2017,Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out how all the variables that hold Gnus' servers
> actually work. `gnus-server-alist' looks like it's meant to be a fairly
> authoritative list, but in my case it has never held anything but the
> archive server.
>
> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
> server?
>
> It looks like `gnus-server-method-cache' ends up actually holding the
> information that would also have gone in `gnus-server-alist'.
>
> Anyway, I hope some of you will humor me!
>
> Eric
>
>
>
Mine's got some funny stuff....
gnus-server-alist is a variable defined in ‘gnus.el’.
Its value is (("archive" nnfolder "archive"
(nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive")
(nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
(nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
(nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)))
sivaram
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2017-10-18 13:20 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
@ 2017-10-18 16:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2017-10-18 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:
> On Sun, Oct 15 2017,Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to figure out how all the variables that hold Gnus' servers
>> actually work. `gnus-server-alist' looks like it's meant to be a fairly
>> authoritative list, but in my case it has never held anything but the
>> archive server.
>>
>> If anyone wants to take twenty seconds and satisfy my curiosity -- does
>> that variable hold anything else for you? Anything but the archive
>> server?
>>
>> It looks like `gnus-server-method-cache' ends up actually holding the
>> information that would also have gone in `gnus-server-alist'.
>>
>> Anyway, I hope some of you will humor me!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>
> Mine's got some funny stuff....
>
> gnus-server-alist is a variable defined in ‘gnus.el’.
>
> Its value is (("archive" nnfolder "archive"
> (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive")
> (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
> (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
> (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)))
Looks normal to me! Thanks.
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* Re: Quick survey of gnus-server-alist
2017-10-15 21:22 Quick survey of gnus-server-alist Eric Abrahamsen
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2017-10-18 13:20 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
@ 2017-10-19 12:08 ` Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
2017-10-20 19:02 ` Michael Sperber
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From: Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) @ 2017-10-19 12:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The Gnus
In Article <87d15o3y36.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>,
Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
> I'm trying to figure out how all the variables that hold Gnus' servers
> actually work. `gnus-server-alist' looks like it's meant to be a fairly
> authoritative list, but in my case it has never held anything but the
> archive server.
Mine is: ("C-h v")
gnus-server-alist is a variable defined in `gnus.el'.
Its value is (("archive" nnfolder "archive"
(nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive")
(nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
(nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
(nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)))
And screenshot is:
https://github.com/soyeomul/Gnus/blob/MaGnus/ss/MaGnus-Server-Buffer-20171019.png
And,
Emacs version is "GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (modified by Debian)".
Gnus version is "Ma Gnus 0.15".
Sincerely, Byung-Hee.
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^고맙습니다 _白衣從軍_ 감사합니다_^))//
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2017-10-15 21:22 Quick survey of gnus-server-alist Eric Abrahamsen
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2017-10-19 12:08 ` Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
@ 2017-10-20 19:02 ` Michael Sperber
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From: Michael Sperber @ 2017-10-20 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
I've got a bunch of stuff in there:
(("reader.albasani.net" nntp "reader.albasani.net"
(nntp-open-connection-function nntp-open-ssl-stream)
(nntp-port-number 563)
(nntp-address "reader.albasani.net"))
("archive" nnfolder "archive"
(nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive")
(nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active")
(nnfolder-get-new-mail nil)
(nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))
("deinprogramm" nnimap "deinprogramm"
(nnimap-address "deinprogramm.de")
(nnimap-stream ssl)
(nnimap-authenticator login)))
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Regards,
Mike
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