From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80051 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnir, gnus-goto-article and such Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:35:07 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87pqinvvg4.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: Reply-To: ding@gnus.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317072959 15838 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2011 21:35:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:35:59 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28345@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Sep 26 23:35:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R8Iq7-0008Rf-Tp for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:35:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R8Ipt-0005ex-V2; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:35:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R8Ips-0005el-PI for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:35:36 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R8Ipr-0003tC-Nq for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:35:36 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R8Ipm-0000NK-KK for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:35:30 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R8Ipm-0008Hf-2P for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:35:30 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.133 ([38.98.147.133]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:35:30 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.133 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:35:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 43 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.133 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mYMJbxQm1MTJHcEIm6+1NfMbf6o= X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80051 Archived-At: On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:01:52 -0400 Dave Abrahams wrote: DA> on Wed Sep 21 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> Dave Abrahams writes: >> >>> 2. (important) I'd like to see the whole thread (e.g. with `A T'). That >>> works fine if it's an IMAP article because nnir finds it. However, >>> nnir doesn't work on nntp newsgroups. >>> >>> It seems to me what's missing is some way of recording the source of >>> the message retrieved by gnus-summary-refer-article, and some way of >>> asking for a thread search in an nntp server. Ideas? >> >> Hm... `gnus-summary-refer-article' work presumably because of the >> registry, I guess? DA> Well, as far as I know I don't have the registry turned on and I have DA> never been able to understand exactly how it could help me. On the DA> surface it sounds exactly like something I'd want and I get very excited DA> but when I think about it carefully, it seems otherwise. The registry is a place where we record interesting things (group, subject, sender, recipients, registry marks) about articles, keyed by the message ID. But it's also a general key-val store with some indexing. For Lars' point, the registry is an opportunistic cache that remember where you've seen a message-ID (server name and group name) and where it's been split before. >> Then the registry should be able to tell you what group it came from, >> too, I think? DA> Maybe... I'm still not sure how to use it. But I'll take another look. Simply call it like this (for message-ID "34"): (gnus-registry-get-id-key "34" 'group) (gnus-registry-get-id-key "34" 'subject) gnus-registry.el has most of the install info at the beginning if you want to try it out. Ted