From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78529 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Outgoing mail defaults Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:51:14 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87pqomm96l.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302972705 11898 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2011 16:51:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26832@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Apr 16 18:51:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QB8ij-0007Dq-9z for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:51:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QB8ib-00036c-JV; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:51:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QB8ia-00036X-Oi for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:51:32 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QB8iW-0000SY-I0 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:51:32 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QB8iV-0006Oh-6W for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:51:27 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QB8iU-00072C-Ts for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:51:27 +0200 Original-Received: from c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.186.102.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:51:26 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:51:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:f6LQbX8S2Cb/ClZxqxRnL5QlmZo= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78529 gmane.emacs.devel:138533 Archived-At: On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:45:05 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> I was thinking about starting to implement this stuff (with 1) last :-), LMI> and one problem occurred to me: Should Emacs do something with mail LMI> delivery failures? ... LMI> So would it make sense to put in a simple MTA layer in Emacs itself? LMI> That is, an mta.el library that's on top of smtpmail.el, which checks LMI> for transient failures (4xx, I think), queues stuff up, and tries LMI> resending in the background? It may be useful on W32 but on Unix I would not need it. LMI> Or is that too brittle? If you're not running Emacs, your message will LMI> just be sitting in the queue. Currently, if Message gets a "450" LMI> (greylisting) error, it'll report the error, and you have to try again LMI> later manually. The MUA should retry later if it's doing SMTP on its own. Gnus could use the Gnus Agent queue, for instance. I think it's a MUA function, though, not something for Emacs in general. Ted