From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76054 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Proposed default change: Show the lapsed time instead of the date Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:22:09 -0800 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: <87pqri2aqm.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87mxmpkdu2.fsf@gnus.org> <87k4htjmvk.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <87pqrkadi9.fsf@gnus.org> <87ei80glix.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87oc73usw4.fsf@netarch.haselwarter.org> <87sjwf9q6h.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296170597 28878 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2011 23:23:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:23:17 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M24406@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jan 28 00:23:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PibBJ-0007UQ-EP for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:23:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PibAw-0004V8-9L; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:22:50 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PibAu-0004Uz-KK for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:22:48 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PibAq-0002j4-8F for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:22:48 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PibAp-0004pX-Fz for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:22:43 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PibAo-00076G-9Y for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:22:42 +0100 Original-Received: from baybryj.net ([198.144.208.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:22:42 +0100 Original-Received: from larsi by baybryj.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:22:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: baybryj.net Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pRAYdYZIBenCm1e8hziJFbjxUUE= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76054 Archived-At: James Cloos writes: > I use this (grep(1)ed from .emacs-custom): > > '(gnus-article-date-lapsed-new-header t) > '(gnus-treat-date-iso8601 nil) > '(gnus-treat-date-lapsed (quote head)) > '(gnus-treat-date-local (quote head)) > > and want to continue to see separate Date: and X-Sent: headers (with > Date in my local tz). > > What settings will I need to fix after I next update gnus to continue > to do so? I found some slight bugs in relation to keeping all these things working at the same time... However, the date settings are kinda confusing. I think it may have been a design mistake to keep these in separate variables. I think it should have been (defcustom gnus-article-date-headers '(local lapsed)) or something. That is, just a list of all the different Date headers you want to see. That would have been a lot simpler and more flexible. Now gnus-treat-date-combined-lapsed defaults to 'head, which means that there are two Date headers (local and combined-lapsed) that are clobbering each other, and because combined-lapsed happens to be last, it wins. (Well, that and the timer that updates it.) So what you'll see with your settings is the new combined-lapsed, and the old lapsed in addition. So you'll get two updating lines. This is obviously not ideal. And if somebody has set gnus-treat-date-iso8601, they'll just get the new combined-lapsed format, anyway. Ideas, all y'all? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen