From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/69754 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Phantom message 14 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:57:18 +0800 Message-ID: <87pqzfv929.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1277452721 13678 80.91.229.12 (25 Jun 2010 07:58:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:58:41 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M18145@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jun 25 09:58:40 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OS3o7-0006Sn-Fs for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:58:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OS3n4-00061a-N2; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:57:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OS3n3-00061P-3U for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:57:33 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OS3n1-0007dT-5w for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:57:32 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1OS3n0-0003Cm-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:57:30 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OS3n0-00063P-Bk for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:57:30 +0200 Original-Received: from 123.121.220.6 ([123.121.220.6]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:57:30 +0200 Original-Received: from eric by 123.121.220.6 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:57:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 123.121.220.6 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ezzRrtVOnSo+JwxyFa5xXYpKT0c= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:69754 Archived-At: I'm trying to compact my Sent messages group, (nnml mail numbers currently run from 7112 to 10300) and every time I do gnus tells me that it can't delete message 14. There is no message 14. It starts the compacting process, writes a blank message to 1, then says there's no message 14. So far as I know, the active file in this backend and the .newsrc.eld file are the only two places where gnus could be getting information about existing messages. I've killed emacs, made sure the relevant line in the active file reads: Sent 10300 7112 y and that .newsrc.eld doesn't have a 14 in it, then restarted emacs and gnus. Again, the complaint about message 14. After I've done this, gnus rewrites the active file to read: Sent 10300 14 y I just don't know why. Where else could this 14 be coming from? References from other messages? Hidden configuration files? Can anyone give me a logical place to start looking, before I turn to voodoo? Thank you, Eric