Re: gnus-sieve: make it easier to customize.

[Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:46:37 +1100 Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> wrote: 
> DP> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>>> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:35:25 +1100 Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> wrote:
>>> 
> DP> I have papers for Gnus, and Emacs, on file, although I don't consider the
> DP> content original enough to warrant them: while it moves a whole bunch of
> DP> lines, it just moves them.  Anyway, whatever.  I hope y'all accept it. :)
>>> 
>>> I think your version is much easier to read and understand.  I don't use
>>> Sieve so I can't test it but otherwise I'm in favor of comitting your
>>> patch.
>
> DP> Well, the generated output is (trivially) identical to the original; it puts
> DP> us in no worse a state than the previous code, but more fine-grained.
>
> DP> Oh, and it actually generates a local file only; if you wish, you can test it
> DP> through generating the content and observing the output. :)
>
> I've been curious about Sieve but there's no info on using it with Gnus.

The Gnus manual, and the Gnus-Sieve manual, both in info format, don't do it
for you?  In fairness, I guess, they are "technical reference" guides to the
integration features, not anything user-focused about the Sieve language
itself.

The short version is, though, that you edit group properties to add a "sieve"
property resembling the expression to file messages into that group:

   INBOX/personal =>
   ((sieve address ["to" "cc"] "daniel@rimspace.net"))

> Also I found Cyrus IMAP painful when I set it up and at the time it was the
> only decent Sieve implementation.
>
> Does anyone use it with dovecot (http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve)?

No, but friends of mine support large numbers (> 10K) users in education using
it, and find it effective and worthwhile.  I use it with Zimbra, more or less.

> Do we have ManageSieve support in Gnus, and if not, can it be added?

Mostly outside it, but the facilities are there.  Read the Sieve manual
shipped with Emacs for details. :)

        Daniel
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