From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62698 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Manoj Srivastava Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Trouble with gnus customize Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:43:07 -0500 Organization: The Golden Gryphon Message-ID: <87psjmw0f8.fsf@glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com> References: <87wtf038cs.fsf@janni.cybervalley.org> <874q0ydgk7.fsf@glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1144903770 12343 80.91.229.2 (13 Apr 2006 04:49:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m11225@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Apr 13 06:49:28 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FTtln-0005As-Ri for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:49:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FTtli-0005U2-00; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:49:22 -0500 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FTtiI-0005Tu-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:45:50 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTtiE-0007i9-Ei for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:45:49 -0500 Original-Received: from host-12-107-230-171.dtccom.net ([12.107.230.171] helo=glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FTtiD-0003iN-00 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:45:45 +0200 Original-Received: from glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com (srivasta@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id k3D4h84g008157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:43:08 -0500 Original-Received: (from srivasta@localhost) by glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k3D4h7tm008156; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:43:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com: srivasta set sender to srivasta@acm.org using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACYAAAAwCAMAAABKbPgaAAAAM1BMVEUAAADIjH/0rp1KPz79 0b+ic2nlpJc2Ly2AY17VlYb4uqi2gHQXFBN2WVXgno5iT02Xa2Nx+jaIAAACVElEQVQ4jeWU23bj IAxFLUAggQX6/6+dI9LGTpo+9mlYiXNhc3TnOP50naZE0tqvgEk+soutnNfQ8yPTWMTENhNrjI+Y +N7POVt8tAzpn2vJlsmttbyfrdkP7hx5iezteGzsbOts7xT+tC1mcG+LtRP2X/16bEQExuyx1uZW vscrAWUT8aE0aDBeBuw8nS5u4WgWyDCllOZUBeyWgbWbGrBsTDpTx0qpphlcYPcgJLvBXFClPMg5 6WH2JidLIAaDF5aAed7uPTH4bjw0bZvfajp2tHc1F+cBm+Vr9YomGSwNhbmcczYEWUu5MBpYvCLV F+ZIKwQfYB+CBXnIRQFvIRhK6l96PemsFLEPFxi+MPxiTYH0Ave1InPsIYes3NJb42ytBSmmysyj lIQYHJm6Im1WbQ0kWMesKFRFPKTDzJ3GhWUn2KWKEkWlKthoACLm2eWJQQh2qKbAUgQxa+8TVjn1 aySm8656ookCfCc5TRzvnZ6YOu3NpHg+uR5YuRkNF/b5IHq5Y7Ve6c2+sR4hqIZ3+5DCt3ukh8Eo vFIXVJxqfMdbkd/BF3YaQkB/2RIUHPMS7RLVAHefrYzWZVQ/ei4peBsROFLi90ltQyvF5I05t4Zs L4C9DODJ2AZCUf8UitGjCIdfx15QQkfZibTOGT3edxns5fY6F2rstKcTwiiaJnQwvYkdzTlaTqNH IkSmGdLrON45tGsMNDoSYr4bxH5emHEFaoFjKBahHXFXfLx9cR9p6ejJXihuxPz57gWHZkWovbPl 9gsU8eImtBi++3D+f+sfT/Mg79fyEz8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-URL: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 1:25:060413:ding@gnus.org::HTjumOY4pf1mF87P:0000bicu X-Face: #q.#]5@vq!Jz+E0t_/;Y^gTjR\T^"B'fbeuVGiyKrvbfKJl!^e|e:iu(kJ6c|QYB57LP*|t &YlP~HF/=h:GA6o6W@I#deQL-%#.6]!z:6Cj0kd#4]>*D,|0djf'CVlXkI,>aV4\}?d_KEqsN{Nnt7 78"OsbQ["56/!nisvyB/uA5Q.{)gm6?q.j71ww.>b9b]-sG8zNt%KkIa>xWg&1VcjZk[hBQ>]j~`Wq Xl,y1a!(>6`UM{~'X[Y_,Bv+}=L\SS*mA8=s;!=O`ja|@PEzb&i0}Qp,`Z\:6:OmRi* In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:36:27 +0200") X-CRM114-Score: -108.8978 X-CRM114-Status: Good ( pR: -108.8978 ) X-Spam-Status: No X-SA-Orig: -8.399, -108.8978 X-Spam-Value: -22.8479 X-Grey: White X-SA-Rep: -22.8479 ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,HASHCASH_25 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang version 2.56 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) on 192.168.1.10 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:62698 Archived-At: On 12 Apr 2006, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen stated: > Manoj Srivastava writes: > >> I can reproduce this -- but setting debug-on-error gave no >> backtrace, just the error message, as above. > > Try `(setq debug-ignored-errors nil)' as well... OK. I don't understand what just happened, so I'll just tell y'all about it, with no speculation. Sequence of events: 1) I read mail I am replying to. I hit M-u to mark ir un read. I hit q to quit the nnml group and return to the *Group* buffer. 2) M-: (setq debug-on-error t) M-: (setq debug-ignored-errors nil) 3) G C (enter customization buffer) 4) Hit down arrow twice, till the curso is over a squarer button before To-List. 5) Hit "space" to toggle button. Debugger entered--Lisp error: (text-read-only "Attempt to change text outsi= de editable field") signal(text-read-only ("Attempt to change text outside editable field")) widget-before-change(136 136) recursive-edit() byte-code("=C3=83=C2=86=10 @=C3=83=C2=87=3D=C2=83!=00=C3=83=C2=88=C3=83= =C2=89=C3=83=C2=8A\"=EF=BF=BD=C3=83=C2=89!=C2=89=1AA@)=C3=82=C2=A2=C3=83=C2= =8C=3D=C2=83!=00=C3=83=C2=88=C3=83=C2=8D=C3=83=C2=8A\"=EF=BF=BD=0B!=EF=BF= =BD =EF=BF=BD !=C2=88\f=C2=83c=00=C3=83=C2=91ed\"=0DV=C2=83W=00eb=EF=BF=BD= =0D=C3=82=C2=A5y=C2=88`=1E=1Cdb=EF=BF=BD=0D=C3=82=C2=A5=0DZy=C2=88=0E=1C`|= =C2=88)=C3=83=C2=93c=C2=88eb=EF=BF=BD=C3=83=C2=95=C3=83=C2=96 \"=EF=BF=BD = =EF=BF=BD=C3=83=C2=98!=EF=BF=BD=C3=83=C2=8A=1E=1D=1E=1E=C3=83=C2=94=C3=83= =C2=9A!=C2=88=EF=BF=BD =C2=88+=C3=83=C2=99=C2=87" [unread-command-char debu= gger-args x debugger-buffer noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines -1 debu= g backtrace-debug 4 t backtrace-frame lambda 5 pop-to-buffer debugger-mode = debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message "%s" buffer-string kill= -emacs "" nil "" recursive-edit middlestart buffer-read-only standard-outpu= t] 4) debug(error (void-function nil)) (nil) 6) Hit C-c C-c Emacs crashed. 7) emacs -f gnus 8) G C 9) down arrow, hit space. A check mark appears. !!! 10) down arrow, enter button, hit space: Same error as above. The error happens most of the time, just not every time. Which file should I load the .el of to get a better backtrace? manoj --=20 I think it's a new feature. Don't tell anyone it was an accident. :-) Larry Wall on s/foo/bar/eieio in <10911@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV> Manoj Srivastava 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C