From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32594 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2020 02:52:37 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 8 Nov 2020 02:52:37 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kbao4-00H0JD-Iz; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 20:51:52 -0600 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kbao3-009ebC-Ck; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 20:51:51 -0600 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kbao0-009eZQ-5d for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 20:51:48 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kbany-00H0H9-D2 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 20:51:47 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=351qyGaDw//E0JprRt2FU3AUdcPtkFaz+7IwowDOwUg=; b=eohK5dQCe/jDP0/gJRtFSotDFM U8iUzActGiNAQVeJ0WJhqQ4L0wC0D6CBNYs9vWVdQqKojx+KUua9vfZVuGuHTESVLFtg3EuYAHMoV l0kIkeZ+64Hbd6Mhnz+iocUoV/l5vG3kyQBSqnKMZ26Dz33ABb8E1zG+8XQ5pQ7K+fPo=; Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kbanr-0003AK-MS for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2020 03:51:42 +0100 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kbanp-0004UQ-2W; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 21:51:37 -0500 Received: from cpc103048-sgyl39-2-0-cust502.18-2.cable.virginm.net ([92.233.85.247]:42066 helo=osgiliath.local) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kbano-0003Zg-N0; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 21:51:36 -0500 Received: by osgiliath.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 451EC4092E; Sun, 8 Nov 2020 02:51:34 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" To: "Eric Abrahamsen" Cc: , "Andrew Cohen" Subject: Re: New "gnus-search" syntax and interface In-Reply-To: <87v9egbmje.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Sat, 07 Nov 2020 18:38:29 -0800") References: <87blgdavsb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y2jfvw9t.fsf@gnus.jao.io> <12MvvhYMQyipeZzkJx1ODwHAD4xQZo6qw1FSX6nvgZAyLZCPkEVFXXGxOQTuxL1zvwZC6BER4jnUFXNgIEjIZA==@protonmail.internalid> <871rh569u1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878sbcabg3.fsf@gnus.jao.io> <87v9egbmje.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: jao X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett X-URL: Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2020 02:51:34 +0000 Message-ID: <87r1p47e89.fsf@gnus.jao.io> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk On Sat, Nov 07 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: [...] >> I am thinking that it could be that this only happens when there's an >> error executing the query: maybe when an exception is raised in the >> middle of the process, part of the code that cleans up the ephemeral >> state is not called? > > Aha! That does make sense. I just made an ephemeral nnselect group with > an `nnselect-function' that just raised an error, and the group does > hang around afterwards. I'm cc'ing Andy, the nnselect author, to see if > this is something specific to nnselect, or maybe just the way ephemeral > groups work in general. I've observed that the "error" can be simply that the query returns no results (nothing fancy like a misconfiguration or the like). At the very least, i can reproduce it reliably that way. Cheers, jao -- Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. -Fred Brooks