From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88278 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How to wide-reply (email) to multiple people? Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 14:17:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87r2eqon4a.fsf@portable.galex-713.eu> References: <87efarn0ni.fsf@gmail.com> <87ftv7pd1q.fsf@portable.galex-713.eu> <87a7leykd3.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1544361388 1347 195.159.176.226 (9 Dec 2018 13:16:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:16:28 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (5.13), GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.11) of 2017-09-15, modified by Debian Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj=C3=B8gren?= Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36488@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Dec 09 14:16:24 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVywW-0000AG-Db for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 14:16:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gVyy7-00077G-Kr; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 07:17:59 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gVyxy-00074T-54 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 07:17:50 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gVyxt-0002PR-Jr for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 07:17:49 -0600 Original-Received: from portable.galex-713.eu ([89.234.186.82]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gVyxr-0003vs-DU for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 14:17:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=portable.galex-713.eu) by portable.galex-713.eu with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gVyxp-0008N4-7I; Sun, 09 Dec 2018 14:17:41 +0100 PGP-FINGERPRINT: E109 9988 4197 D7CB B0BC 5C23 8DEB 24BA 867D 3F7F Accept-Language: fr, en, eo, it, br In-Reply-To: <87a7leykd3.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> ("Adam \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Sj\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?\=C3\=B8gren\=22's\?\= message of "Sun, 09 Dec 2018 13:07:04 +0100") X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88278 Archived-At: Le 09/12/2018 =C3=A0 13h07, Adam Sj=C3=B8gren a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > Alexandre writes: > >> This is a feature I=E2=80=99ve been using quite much, and I=E2=80=99d li= ke its behavior >> to be more logical toward redundancy of subjects too. > > I guess Gnus should just deduplicate the subjects? > > I only tried S V on articles with different subjects, so I didn't notice > the effect. > >> Some (non-standard, I guess) feature I always wanted is true multiple >> reply for emails: like, multiple message-ids in the in-reply-to, > > That's what the spec says: > > The "In-Reply-To:" field may be used to identify the message (or > messages) to which the new message is a reply, while the > "References:" field may be used to identify a "thread" of > conversation. > > - https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2822.txt section 3.6.4 Oh wonderful! I must have missed it last time (or forgot it?) > But Gnus only includes the first marked email in In-Reply-To. That > sounds like a bug to be, in S V. Yes. >> and merging the references of all messages you reply too. > > I think S V does that - at least it did in my test. > >> The worse that happenned until now is people interpreting it as thread >> stealing (though I changed the subject, used Was:, and both subjects >> and messages were mine). > > (Why would you want the new article connected to the previous thread, if > you changed the subject?) Did you never saw a subject change in the middle of a thread? that way involved people still see it=E2=80=99s the contitnuation of what they were speaking about, while people non-involved in the conversation, depending on the subject, will be able to decide if they=E2=80=99d better ignore it to focus on the main topic, or join the new thread (that originated from the first). But I heard of some clients (gmail=E2=80=A6) that had problems wit that. L= ike they use subject instead of in-reply-to and references to build threads=E2= =80=A6 >> I=E2=80=99d love to begin doing that and then making up some interface w= ithin >> Summary that would display it graph-like like in git :D > > I think I've seen something like that decades ago? Yeah: > > =C2=B7 http://gnus.org/manual/gnus_55.html#Tree-Display How wait indeed that might be used to display a graph=E2=80=A6 but does it = do by default? I recall tried once successfully (without looking at if it could display graphs)=E2=80=A6 but setting gnus-use-trees to t doesn=E2=80= =99t change anything now=E2=80=A6 what should I look at?