From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88089 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric S Fraga Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: strange scoring with cache and total expire? Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:34:55 +0200 Organization: On the Interweb somewhere Message-ID: <87r2jq86io.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1532612060 24256 195.159.176.226 (26 Jul 2018 13:34:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:34:20 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36303@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jul 26 15:34:16 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1figPI-0006Aa-B7 for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:34:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1figQT-00070b-4g; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:35:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1figQK-0006xn-Bn for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:35:20 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1figQE-0001S1-R0 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 08:35:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1figQD-0006A0-4u for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:35:13 +0200 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1figO0-0004ko-If for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:32:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 56 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Url: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucecesf/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:Yk4bw60KLmKFkQ0iCBuMeL38SYs= X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.4.1 2015-04-28) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0270 Ham tokens: 0.000-170--6553h-0s--0d--H*M:fsf, 0.000-164--6331h-0s--0d--H*MI:fsf, 0.000-24--910h-0s--0d--H*UA:Emacs, 0.000-24--900h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-22--851h-0s--0d--persistent Spam tokens: 0.997-33783--600h-26771s--0d--H*r:quimby.gnus.org, 0.995-34809--1011h-27890s--0d--HTo:D*gnus.org, 0.995-35936--1120h-28852s--0d--H*RU:quimby.gnus.org, 0.995-35936--1120h-28852s--0d--Hx-spam-relays-external:quimby.gnus.org, 0.994-35923--1274h-28962s--0d--H*RT:quimby.gnus.org Autolearn status: no autolearn_force=no 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.5 BAYES_05 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 1 to 5% [score: 0.0270] 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88089 Archived-At: Hello all, As I have given up on the agent with respect to my work (office365.com) server, I have started playing with the cache, including articles which are marked read into the cache. So far so good. Not the same as using the agent but it does mean I can easily/quickly access previously read articles which is at least one of my motivations for using the agent. However, something has gone strange with my adaptive scoring which, to date, has worked very well. I never get any positive scores, only negative. I wonder whether the persistent/cache mark affects this or whether it's because I have moved to using total expire on the group? I have defined a positive score for cached articles and a 0 score for expirable articles. I also include word scoring with similar settings. Further, if I revisit the group (with no new messages) and then / o N followed by q, the scores get re-done again on the old articles, getting increasingly negative each time I do this. I am very confused. This is my setting for scoring: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (setq gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist '(;(gnus-kill-file-mark) ;;(gnus-unread-mark) ;; (gnus-read-mark (from 5) (subject 30)) (gnus-replied-mark (from 5) (subject 1)) (gnus-read-mark (from 3) (subject 1)) (gnus-cached-mark (from 3) (subject 1)) (gnus-forwarded-mark (from 1) (subject 2)) (gnus-saved-mark (from 1) (subject 3)) (gnus-expirable-mark (from 0) (subject 0)) (gnus-catchup-mark (from -1) (subject -2)) (gnus-killed-mark (subject -10)) (gnus-del-mark (from -1) (subject -2))) gnus-default-adaptive-word-score-alist '((42 . 5) ;cached (65 . 5) ;replied (70 . 1) ;forwarded (82 . 3) ;read (67 . -1) ;catchup (69 . 0) ;expired (75 . -3) ;killed (114 . -5)) ;deleted ) #+end_src Any advice very welcome! Thanks, eric -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid