From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj=C3=B8gren?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: warn about a BCC field Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:54:45 +0200 Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark Message-ID: <87r2ni9kpm.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> References: <87d1eaa0q2.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87d0z51px0.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87vacualzc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k1tasuz9.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87lgdqakkw.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87woxayfj8.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87y3hq924h.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lgdqn3lf.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <877epal0m2.fsf@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523699655 32061 195.159.176.226 (14 Apr 2018 09:54:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:54:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m36184@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Apr 14 11:54:11 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.34]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7Hsp-0008Aj-GW for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:54:11 +0200 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 0877798c-3fca-11e8-950a-b499baa2b07a; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 09:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f7Htc-0004Ip-AF; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 04:55:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f7HtY-0004I2-El for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 04:54:56 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f7HtV-0004Yx-KQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 04:54:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1f7HtU-0006yR-C0 for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:54:52 +0200 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7HrM-0006UU-F8 for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:52:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 53 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org OpenPGP: id=476630590A231909B0A0961A49D0746121BDE416; url=https://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc Mail-Follow-Up-To: never X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97,Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87970 Archived-At: Uwe writes: >> No, mail user agents are supposed to strip the Bcc header before >> sending, and that's what Gnus is doing, so everything works as it >> should. > >> The whole point of the Bcc header is that isn't not supposed to be sent >> out. > > Again a misunderstanding the following > > ,---- > | From: Uwe Brauer > | Subject: test bdd > | To: Uwe Brauer > | Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:10:57 +0200 (8 hours, 59 minutes, 22 seconds ago) > | Bcc: oub.oub.oub@gmail.com > `---- > > Is a header in my oub@mat.ucm.es > > Mailbox, after receiving it. It is *not* a message I want to sent. You keep saying this, and it keeps being baffling. Are you SURE that the email you are looking at is one you _received_ and not a copy that was _stored_ in your local archive (equivalent of "Sent" folder)? When I send an email with Gnus, the local copy stored in nnml+archive:mail-2018 has the Bcc header¹, while the emails sent out to the recipients in To, Cc and Bcc do not. That's the way it is supposed to work. If you see something different, something is wrong. You should probably do your experiment with different From and To. That is less likely to confuse, as it will clearly separate received emails from locally stored copies. Best regards, Adam ¹ So I can see that I used Bcc - while nobody else csn (the recipients in the Bcc might infer that they were Bcc'ed, but really can't be sure). -- "I'm a dessertarian." Adam Sjøgren asjo@koldfront.dk