From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87659 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: IMAP changes timestamp when moving an article to another group Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:12:57 -0700 Message-ID: <87r2vfnbwm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <867fbvja33.fsf@dod.no> <86h8whdswa.fsf@dod.no> <86shfwcnyu.fsf@dod.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1504970157 8657 195.159.176.226 (9 Sep 2017 15:15:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 15:15:57 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m35873@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Sep 09 17:15:51 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.34]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dqhU0-0001dz-P7 for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 17:15:44 +0200 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id b6c82f8e-9571-11e7-9d96-b499baa2b07a; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 15:15:29 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dqhT4-0005sl-3k; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 10:14:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dqhT0-0005sD-Ag for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 10:14:42 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dqhSy-00055K-8h for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 10:14:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1dqhSw-0008Oc-4E for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 17:14:38 +0200 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dqhSk-0006VM-Ky for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 17:14:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:PlMr91eGhyp9Jj5v49m4znFdw0o= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87659 Archived-At: Steinar Bang writes: >>>>>> Steinar Bang : > > >> Does anyone know what happened to this issue? > >> I haven't dared expire or move stuff in my nnimap folders for the last >> year or so... > > To summarize: When expiring, or moving with "B m" messages between > nnimap on a dovecot server, the date is displayed wrongly in other IMAP > clients. > > The Date: header on the message itself is unchanged, but the > INTERNALDATE gets the time of the move/copy operation. > > Dovecot allows the INTERNALDATE to be specified during a copy (see Timo > Siriainens last reply text in [1]), and the feature request is that nnimap > specifices the INTERNALDATE during a copy. I looked at the link, but I still don't really see where he's saying that you can specify the INTERNALDATE. The IMAP specs certainly don't indicate that any additional arguments are possible with a MOVE command. You can specify a date with APPEND, but the only time Gnus uses that is when replacing an article, not MOVEing (so far as I can tell)...