From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/84161 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Emacs Cloud Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 09:08:47 +0100 Message-ID: <87r47klisw.fsf@randomsample.de> References: <877g9fxwih.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87r47ni1mu.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87k3deo8y0.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mwiaqzjj.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87txcimrsc.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ha8impk9.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87eh3mqf4t.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <871tzmm6yz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbwyks3h.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8761oxqvrp.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87ha8hf7ow.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878uttf6bu.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8738k1f586.fsf@building.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391415018 1482 80.91.229.3 (3 Feb 2014 08:10:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 08:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: ding-owner+M32413@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Feb 03 09:10:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WAEbp-00024B-0g for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 09:10:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1WAEad-0000DM-6j; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 02:09:11 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1WAEaa-0000D2-5u for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 02:09:08 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WAEaP-0007yk-DJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 02:09:07 -0600 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WAEaN-000808-AP; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 09:08:55 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=90r2yplbXMxzqg8OmHKuZxpDG1QMYdTJYYhYMRxTaZE=; b=dLKw6PCFEzKF0x+uuEVG8WHRysddfHb7ag/rfmQcMQ8z7J0Rbz2tCTXNOGQFrvDy2/myECZ3I2W268pxSf179GTLxcvmIrppsciuJ7ceDDyCFnjnXXSR6xpp4YF+f5wO; Original-Received: from dslc-082-083-033-087.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.83.33.87] helo=spaten) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WAEaL-0001jH-FO; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 09:08:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8738k1f586.fsf@building.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:46:17 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , ding@gnus.org X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:84161 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Julien Danjou writes: > >> Pros: no passphrase to enter, GPG agent takes care of it > > I don't think we can rely on GPG agent being available... GnuPG 2.x *requires* the agent; it does not make sense to use GnuPG 2.x without setting up the agent as well. It was a deliberate design decision to have *one* secure daemon for querying and caching pass-phrases, instead of leaving this to the applications, which will often do it wrong. If you really don't want to use the agent, then just keep using GnuPG 1.x, which is actively maintained (and probably will be for a long time). Note that you can install GnuPG 1.x alongside GnuPG 2.x with no problems, and every recent distribution I know has packages for both. -David