From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/82334 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Features that make you love Gnus? Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:35:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87r4pv6fy0.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <876278tinr.fsf@gavenkoa.example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348209428 4682 80.91.229.3 (21 Sep 2012 06:37:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 06:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Oleksandr Gavenko Original-X-From: ding-owner+M30600@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Sep 21 08:37:13 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TEwrN-0004Lz-OI for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:37:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1TEwqJ-0005t4-Ft; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 01:36:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1TEwqF-0005sm-34 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 01:35:59 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TEwqD-00056N-6x for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 01:35:58 -0500 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TEwqB-0004XJ-Ct for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:35:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D151A40A0; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:35:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4gwmXhD79MnP; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:35:53 +0200 (CEST) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tsdh@gnu.org Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (tsdh.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.67.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 824121A4067; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:35:53 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <876278tinr.fsf@gavenkoa.example.com> (Oleksandr Gavenko's message of "Fri, 21 Sep 2012 01:48:40 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:82334 Archived-At: Oleksandr Gavenko writes: > But I notice problems behind Gnus that have no solution known to me: > > * Blocking Emacs during Gnus loading. news.rsdn.ru server have > special timing policy for access to their groups, so *Group* buffer > can unfreeze after 30 sec... > > Gnus Agent don't help with this issue I think... Yes, right now Gnus blocks when getting new news/mail. But some people are experimenting with asynchronously performing such longrunning ops (see async.el from John Wiegley), and there's Tom Tromey experimenting with threads in emacs. So the situation may become better in the middle term. > I look to INN and Leafnode solutions, but don't understand how > Emacs will be send message back to NNTP... It'll deliver the posting to your local leafnode, and that propagates it back to your "real" news server. > * Notification when someone replay to me or articles marked as > ticked/dormant (!/?). I expect that Gnus periodically reloads all > groups for which I subscribed (and posted to or have ticked/dormant > articles) and scans for replays below my messages based on > Message-Id. You could use gnus-notifications to get notifications on new news/mail. And you could use scoring so that replies to your messages get a very high score, and then sort according to score. > I ask question: > > Subject: Notifying me to read message from selected groups for > new messages only if score greater then N. Oh, sounds about what I've just suggested. But I think gnus-notifications currently notifies regardless of score or other predicates. Probably, this cannot be done easily, because I think scores are computed not until you enter a summary buffer which it doesn't do. Julien will know the definitive answer. Bye, Tassilo