From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80136 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: message splitting gone haywire Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:36:36 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87r52ydipn.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87ippv2phj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877h4rn3ot.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uuziuzj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sjnfjz1h.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y5x7uqtx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87y5x7drqm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ty7vulr3.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> Reply-To: ding@gnus.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317339456 8962 80.91.229.12 (29 Sep 2011 23:37:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:37:36 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28430@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Sep 30 01:37:32 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R9QAW-0006QG-Cu for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 01:37:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R9Q9y-00021A-H4; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:36:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R9Q9x-000210-A9 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:36:57 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R9Q9v-0001VA-Gb for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:36:56 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R9Q9s-00042v-Me for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 01:36:52 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R9Q9s-0006Ek-9b for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 01:36:52 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.133 ([38.98.147.133]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 01:36:52 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.133 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 01:36:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.133 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+FJRiAHgAfSHffAo6j7YQf4KdB0= X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80136 Archived-At: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:38:56 +0200 asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote: AS> On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:21:37 -0500, Ted wrote: >> I could add 'ask, but we're talking potentially hundreds of these >> prompts during splitting. Also I don't think a temporary splitting >> strategy is a good thing because you won't necessarily know where things >> went if you split 20 minutes later. Similarly the random choice can >> cause confusion. >> I think the only choices available from 'ask should be 'first, >> 'majority, and 'newest. Once chosen they should persist until the end >> of the session, using the Customize system. The user can save the >> preference at that point. AS> Ok, taking my sarcasm voice off again: I think you are trying to make AS> the system too clever and too magic for the users and the programs own AS> good. Look at how confused Eric Abrahamsen got by the *intended and AS> chosen* behaviour! Heh, scanning through hundreds of messages definitely shuts off my sarcasm meter. I think you're right, in any case. AS> I'd say make the sane choice the default, and don't offer any other AS> choices until someone a) argues that it is really, really important, and AS> b) wants to use it. I thought I wanted 'majority but I'm pretty sure 'newest will do the job better. Similarly 'first is not better than 'newest and usually worse. So, unless someone has objections, I'll make 'newest the default and only option. Ted