From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79422 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus hanging Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:58:33 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87r560lneu.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> References: <4ctyazvfec.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <87pqllq8pe.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310144335 11781 80.91.229.12 (8 Jul 2011 16:58:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:58:55 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M27718@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jul 08 18:58:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfEOA-0004tA-Qp for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:58:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QfENy-0006eU-44; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:58:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QfENw-0006eD-Pf for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QfENv-0005Ri-Vh for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from static.103.179.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.179.103] helo=static.73.179.46.78.clients.your-server.de) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QfENu-0006dW-5s for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:58:34 +0200 Original-Received: from lee by yun.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QfENt-0003hp-Hy for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:58:33 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Riley's message of "Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:54:15 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1692--6860h-0s--0d--H*UA:Emacs, 0.000-1524--6176h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1411--5718h-0s--0d--H*UA:Gnus, 0.000-1410--5717h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-1353--5483h-0s--0d--H*u:linux Spam tokens: 0.998-1--0h-7s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:sk:static., 0.998-1--0h-7s--0d--H*RU:sk:static., 0.987-1--0h-1s--0d--H*r:sk:clients, 0.966-5801--1381h-53454s--0d--H*r:quimby.gnus.org, 0.911-187--217h-3007s--0d--H*r:sk:static. Autolearn status: no -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 2.0 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP addr 1) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79422 Archived-At: Richard Riley writes: > lee writes: >> Because it takes two hours for the connection to time out, I haven't >> been able to see if it works yet. If it doesn't work, an alternative > > Simpy unplug the network or "sudo ifdown -a"? Well, I didn't want to have different conditions for testing than for normal operation. I had started to write a reply to a question Lars had sent me in reply to the bug report I had sent and was watching the connections to the two news servers I'm using and experimenting. The connection to the news server that doesn't require authentication (gmane) closes after 15 or 20 minutes or so, and gnus brings it back up just fine when checking for new news and doesn't hang. The connection to the other news server which does require authentication stays for two hours, and though gnus brings it back up again, gnus will hang. Who knows, interrupting the network connection may be very different from a connection closing or timing out normally, perhaps especially so when authentication is involved. It seems interesting that gnus hangs when authentication is involved and doesn't hang when authentication is not involved. If I kept track correctly, all the other users reporting this problem have it with connections that do require authentication (POP3 and IMAP). Now remember the message about the TLS error showing up in the *Messages* buffer: Do you see this message, too?