From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79228 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: utterly bogus "How many articles from ... (available ..., default ...)" 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LMI> Yes, that would be nice. However, this particular user has reported= the LMI> same thing, like, four thousand times now, and there's just so many LMI> times that I feel like repeating the same thing. No. This is the first time I discovered this particular problem. LMI> Doing something about this is going to happen in the next Gnus LMI> development cycle. I am saying that you are taking a list with many holes in it, and communicating to the user as if there was always not one single hole in it. You get the two edges correct, but ignore the fact that 99% of the items in between them might be missing.