Re: Outgoing mail defaults

[Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>]

On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:31:58 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> smtpmail can get auth-source to do 1+2 better that Customize IMO through
>> `auth-source-creation-prompts' and `auth-source-creation-defaults'.

LMI> Hm...  but we still have to set what the smtp host is somewhere?  Or
LMI> were you thinking that smtpmail could just ask auth-source for "give me
LMI> an smtp host from your backends", which would, for most people, be a
LMI> line from their ~/.authinfo file saying

LMI> machine smtp.gmail.com port smtp

Right, it would be the first SMTP host found or none if they don't have
one.  I think that's the right thing either way for most new cases.

>> Perhaps auth-source itself should be smarter when running for the first
>> time, asking the user if he'd like to use the Secrets API, or (on Mac OS
>> X) the upcoming keychain support, or an unencrypted file on Windows, or
>> some other auth-source backend.  The default works for those who use
>> EPA/EPG and cache or agentize their passphrases, but otherwise it's
>> annoying.

LMI> Yeah, auth-source could be querying the user about this stuff the first
LMI> time it runs.  (And it could determine whether it's the first time just
LMI> by trying all the sources, and see whether any of them exist?)

Hmm, what a pain.  Yes, it makes sense to build the auth-sources more
intelligently.  It shouldn't stop the smtpmail.el changes you're
planning.  I'll put it on my TODO list.

Ted