From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77793 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: can Gnus simply use the Emacs bug tracker? Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:31:40 -0400 Message-ID: <87r5a8azwz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <8762rk2vah.fsf@lifelogs.com> <6iy64gxk4z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300221123 19585 80.91.229.12 (15 Mar 2011 20:32:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ted Zlatanov , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 15 21:31:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PzauJ-00068b-JI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:31:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43782 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PzauI-0002lE-Tr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:31:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46557 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PzauF-0002l9-7F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:31:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PzauD-0004hT-F3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:31:51 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.146]:43108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pzau7-0004fq-8c; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:31:43 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp128036014081.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p2FKVeEL032541 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:31:40 -0400 Original-Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 35CAE1602DE; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:31:40 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <6iy64gxk4z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:23:56 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.146 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.132.50.146 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137255 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77793 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > So really all that is needed is to use "Package: gnus" in the first > line of a mail to submit@debbugs. Using "Package: emacs,gnus" causes > both bugs@gnus.org and bug-gnu-emacs to get mails. You can do this > today with zero other changes required. This would be easier than trying to figure out the correct mail rules to take over bug@gnus.org, indeed. The disadvantage is that the Gnus project will get a mix of tracked and untracked bugs, since many existing users would still report bugs to the "unmanaged" bugs@gnus.org. > With regards to making it more "official", personally I hesitate a > bit. debbugs.gnu.org is a GNU machine and the set-up is intended for > GNU projects. Do you regard Gnus as a GNU project? GNU Gnus? I know > Gnus is part of Emacs, but eg > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gnus > > does not exist, and I don't seem to find a statement on > http://www.gnus.org/. There don't seem to be any mentions in the Gnus > manual either. The VM was originally provided to us as a bug tracker for Emacs, not as a GNU bug server; so as far as I'm concerned we have a broad mandate for using it to manage Emacs-related bugs. We can give the FSF a heads-up, but frankly I don't see this issue being a problem.