* Re: No mairix binding [not found] <87d4e9on05.fsf@mcbain.luannocracy.com> @ 2009-01-27 12:33 ` David Engster 2009-01-27 14:30 ` David Abrahams 2010-09-26 14:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: David Engster @ 2009-01-27 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: David Abrahams, ding The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnus.gnus-bug as well. [Followup from gnus-bug to ding@gnus.org] David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes: > Gnus v5.13 > GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.14.4) > of 2009-01-05 on mcbain > 200 news.ett.com.ua InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.4.3 ready (posting ok). > > > 2.18.2.5 Configuring nnmairix > ............................. > > In group mode, type `G b c' > (`nnmairix-create-server-and-default-group'). This will ask you for all > necessary information and create a `nnmairix' server as a foreign > server. > > When I fire up Gnus, there is no such binding in the *Group* buffer (I > presume that's what "in group mode" means?). That remains true even > after `M-x load-library nnmairix' Currently, you have to put (require 'nnmairix) in your .gnus to make the bindings work, since they're set up in the gnus-group-mode-hook. We should set up a permanent binding in group mode for an autoloaded nnmairix-create-server-and-default-group. I didn't do this yet, since there was no definite decision on what key bindings nnmairix should use. At the moment, it uses the 'G b' prefix in group mode and '$' in summary mode, while nnir uses 'G G'. Reiner suggested three alternatives to improve this situation[*], where I voted for using 'G G' as a prefix for nnmairix in all modes and using 'G G i' for nnir. -David [*] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67055 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: No mairix binding 2009-01-27 12:33 ` No mairix binding David Engster @ 2009-01-27 14:30 ` David Abrahams 2010-09-26 14:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: David Abrahams @ 2009-01-27 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding on Tue Jan 27 2009, David Engster <deng-AT-randomsample.de> wrote: > The following message is a courtesy copy of an article > that has been posted to gnus.gnus-bug as well. > > [Followup from gnus-bug to ding@gnus.org] > > David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes: >> Gnus v5.13 >> GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.14.4) >> of 2009-01-05 on mcbain >> 200 news.ett.com.ua InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.4.3 ready (posting ok). >> >> >> 2.18.2.5 Configuring nnmairix >> ............................. >> >> In group mode, type `G b c' >> (`nnmairix-create-server-and-default-group'). This will ask you for all >> necessary information and create a `nnmairix' server as a foreign >> server. >> >> When I fire up Gnus, there is no such binding in the *Group* buffer (I >> presume that's what "in group mode" means?). That remains true even >> after `M-x load-library nnmairix' > > Currently, you have to put (require 'nnmairix) in your .gnus to make the > bindings work, since they're set up in the gnus-group-mode-hook. I don't think it's that. I don't have a (require 'nnmairix) and now it's working. I think the problem is that I was investigating mairix by walking through the info pages, and I had already started Gnus. If you do that, nnmairix-group-mode-hook, which sets up the keybindings, never gets called. > We should set up a permanent binding in group mode for an autoloaded > nnmairix-create-server-and-default-group. I didn't do this yet, since > there was no definite decision on what key bindings nnmairix should > use. At the moment, it uses the 'G b' prefix in group mode and '$' in > summary mode, while nnir uses 'G G'. Reiner suggested three alternatives > to improve this situation[*], where I voted for using 'G G' as a prefix > for nnmairix in all modes and using 'G G i' for nnir. BTW, has anyone published a comparison article between all the fancy nnir and nnmairix search methods yet? -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: No mairix binding 2009-01-27 12:33 ` No mairix binding David Engster 2009-01-27 14:30 ` David Abrahams @ 2010-09-26 14:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2010-09-26 15:25 ` Dan Christensen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-26 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding; +Cc: bugs David Engster <deng@randomsample.de> writes: > We should set up a permanent binding in group mode for an autoloaded > nnmairix-create-server-and-default-group. I didn't do this yet, since > there was no definite decision on what key bindings nnmairix should > use. At the moment, it uses the 'G b' prefix in group mode and '$' in > summary mode, while nnir uses 'G G'. Reiner suggested three alternatives > to improve this situation[*], where I voted for using 'G G' as a prefix > for nnmairix in all modes and using 'G G i' for nnir. I think that sounds fine. Could you make it so? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: No mairix binding 2010-09-26 14:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-26 15:25 ` Dan Christensen 2010-09-26 15:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Dan Christensen @ 2010-09-26 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: > David Engster <deng@randomsample.de> writes: > >> We should set up a permanent binding in group mode for an autoloaded >> nnmairix-create-server-and-default-group. I didn't do this yet, since >> there was no definite decision on what key bindings nnmairix should >> use. At the moment, it uses the 'G b' prefix in group mode and '$' in >> summary mode, while nnir uses 'G G'. Reiner suggested three alternatives >> to improve this situation[*], where I voted for using 'G G' as a prefix >> for nnmairix in all modes and using 'G G i' for nnir. > > I think that sounds fine. Could you make it so? Is there no good option that doesn't require three keystrokes for doing searches? Whatever is chosen, I also noticed that there are no menu items for mairix. Since I have trouble remembering such long keystrokes, menu items would be useful. Also, `G G ?' and/or `G G h' should show a list of further keystrokes. And maybe `G G' can say "Type ? for further options" the way `C-h' does? Dan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: No mairix binding 2010-09-26 15:25 ` Dan Christensen @ 2010-09-26 15:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2010-09-26 17:14 ` Dan Christensen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-26 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes: > Whatever is chosen, I also noticed that there are no menu items > for mairix. Since I have trouble remembering such long keystrokes, menu > items would be useful. Yes, the nnmairix commands should be in the menu, too. > Also, `G G ?' and/or `G G h' should show a list of further keystrokes. > And maybe `G G' can say "Type ? for further options" the way `C-h' > does? But all prefix take `?', so it seems redundant... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: No mairix binding 2010-09-26 15:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-26 17:14 ` Dan Christensen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Dan Christensen @ 2010-09-26 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: > Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes: > >> Also, `G G ?' and/or `G G h' should show a list of further keystrokes. >> And maybe `G G' can say "Type ? for further options" the way `C-h' >> does? > > But all prefix take `?', so it seems redundant... G b is the current nnmairix prefix, but when I type `G b ?', I get G b ? is undefined I wanted to make sure this didn't happen when G b was switched to something else. Dan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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