From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67467 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Problem with gnus-article-hide-citation Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:32:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87r675r1m3.fsf@engster.org> References: <87y71eeav9.fsf@pcdesk.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222533210 30301 80.91.229.12 (27 Sep 2008 16:33:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tyler Spivey To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15918@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Sep 27 18:34:24 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KjckR-0006pf-Ni for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:34:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Kjcif-0000VR-Hp; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:32:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Kjcie-0000V8-6N for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:32:32 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kjcib-0005XT-Fw for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:32:32 -0500 Original-Received: from m61s02.vlinux.de ([83.151.21.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Kjcig-0005WH-00 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:32:34 +0200 Original-Received: from dslc-082-082-180-251.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.82.180.251] helo=honk) by m61s02.vlinux.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KjcjB-0003pP-E9; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:33:05 +0200 Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org, Tyler Spivey In-Reply-To: <87y71eeav9.fsf@pcdesk.net> (Tyler Spivey's message of "Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:38:34 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.3 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67467 Archived-At: [Followup from gnus.bug] Tyler Spivey writes: > I'll try to describe this bug as best I can, so hopefully it can get > fixed. When I press WWc on a message, then start cursoring around the > article buffer, the > characters are still in it. They aren't visible > on the screen, but I am blind and use an emacs speech package which > picks them up. To reproduce this, press WWc on a message, then put > point on the first character of any remaining text that wasn't hidden > (below the buttons). press C-a C-b, the cursor should be on a blank > line, but note that if you press C-x = the current character is a >. > Also, if you hit C-a on that line, it'll jump you to the next line. I can confirm this behavior. I'm not sure why this is happening and if this is actually a bug in Gnus or in Emacs. I always thought that the user commands for cursor navigation would skip over hidden text, but in the first column in the line after the button, the point position is indeed on the beginning of the hidden citation, usually containing a ">". I tried putting the hidden text directly after the button (i.e. in the same line). It is still accessible, but it would be at a line ending and not at the beginning of the next line, which I guess would at least solve the above problem? Other suggestions? -David