From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67047 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Exchange server Calendar folder analysis Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:58:23 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: <87r6b27wds.fsf@dod.no> References: <878wxgna1u.fsf@dod.no> <87ej73agxi.fsf@dod.no> <87y75b13xu.fsf@obelix.mork.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213268404 23121 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2008 11:00:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:00:04 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15514@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jun 12 13:00:46 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K6kXp-0002Qa-Ix for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:00:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6kWC-0005m3-Ot; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:59:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6kWA-0005ll-Rz for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:58:58 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K6kW4-0007Ju-7f for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:58:58 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1K6kWI-0001XO-00 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:59:06 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K6kVw-0005BQ-5z for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:58:44 +0000 Original-Received: from pat-gw.osl.fast.no ([217.144.235.5]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:58:44 +0000 Original-Received: from sb by pat-gw.osl.fast.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:58:44 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 42 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pat-gw.osl.fast.no Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QajtBbjHKHYfNOAxGGaygG1WQGU= X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67047 Archived-At: >>>>> Bjørn Mork : > You do know they document this stuff? > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa579778(EXCHG.80).aspx What I didn't know is if these headers are part of the neccessary magic to make things work. And I still don't. Only experimentation can determine that. > Don't know if this will work. If you need to modify the messages, I > guess the proper way is to use WebDAV. It has a PROPPATCH method that > will allow you to modify properties of existing objects. Microsoft's > documentation: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa493854(EXCHG.80).aspx Yeah. But Gnus already has IMAP support, but not WebDAV support (at least not readily available. google found me eldav, but I don't know anything about it beyond that). But if the contents of the calendar are exposed as properties in WebDAV, that's interesting. Because then it shouldn't be too hard to change a meeting state in the published calendar (ie. not require reading heaps of specs to be able to do so). > But it will of course be a lot easier to integrate it into Gnus if > replacing the message using IMAP works. Looking forward to the results > of your experiments :-) If I get around to doing those experiments, I'll post the results here. > AFAIK, other applcations integrating with Exchange, like Evolution, use > WebDAV for things like this. There's probably a reason.... Yes. But Evolution using the exchange WebDAV-backend is completely unusable, which is why I stopped using it, and went back to using Gnus. Evolution using imap to talk to the Exchange server can't do calendars, and is still big and slow. Using WebDAV to read email is a really bad idea, so why they didn't separate the two is beyond me...