nnrss and atom feeds

nnrss and atom feeds

[Bastien]

Hi folks,

i just tried `G R' with the latest Gnus and it seems that atom feeds
are not supported yet.  Just try to fetch any blogspot.com feed.

Is <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> or anyone else working on that now?
If not i can take this in charge.  Any guidance welcome.

regards,

-- 
Bastien

Re: nnrss and atom feeds

[Bastien]

Mark Plaksin <happy@mcplaksin.org> writes:

> This would be great!  Perhaps having a feed library in Emacs would be
> best.  There are at least three packages which deal with feeds:

I will have a look at those pointers and try to figure out what kind
of feed library Emacs should have.

Thanks,

-- 
Bastien

Re: nnrss and atom feeds

[Mark Plaksin]

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

> Hi folks,
>
> i just tried `G R' with the latest Gnus and it seems that atom feeds
> are not supported yet.  Just try to fetch any blogspot.com feed.
>
> Is <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> or anyone else working on that now?
> If not i can take this in charge.  Any guidance welcome.

This would be great!  Perhaps having a feed library in Emacs would be
best.  There are at least three packages which deal with feeds:

- nnrss in Gnus
- Atom API:  http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsAtomApi
- newsticker.el which is is CVS Emacs and described here:
  http://www.nongnu.org/newsticker/

As far as I know (which isn't very far) they all use completely different
code.

There are also various feeds which nnrss doesn't handle (CVS Gnus, CVS
Emacs).  I don't recall any at the moment but will start keeping track.
I keep thinking I'll find time to work on all of this but no luck
so far :)

Re: nnrss and atom feeds

[Mark Plaksin]

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

> Hi folks,
>
> i just tried `G R' with the latest Gnus and it seems that atom feeds
> are not supported yet.  Just try to fetch any blogspot.com feed.
>
> Is <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> or anyone else working on that now?
> If not i can take this in charge.  Any guidance welcome.

This would be great!  Perhaps having a feed library in Emacs would be
best.  There are at least three packages which deal with feeds:

- nnrss in Gnus
- Atom API:  http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsAtomApi
- newsticker.el which is is CVS Emacs and described here:
  http://www.nongnu.org/newsticker/

As far as I know (which isn't very far) they all use completely different
code.

There are also various feeds which nnrss doesn't handle (CVS Gnus, CVS
Emacs).  I don't recall any at the moment but will start keeping track.
I keep thinking I'll find time to work on all of this but no luck
so far :)

Re: nnrss and atom feeds

[Mark A. Hershberger]

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Mark Plaksin <happy@mcplaksin.org> writes:

> - nnrss in Gnus
> - Atom API:  http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsAtomApi
> - newsticker.el which is is CVS Emacs and described here:
>   http://www.nongnu.org/newsticker/

Since I saw that newsticker.el was in CVS and seemed to support
more formats than nnrss, I've pulling out the feed-parsing bits and
making a library that both nnrss and newsticker could use.

> As far as I know (which isn't very far) they all use completely different
> code.

But it is far enough to be right.

> There are also various feeds which nnrss doesn't handle (CVS Gnus, CVS
> Emacs).  I don't recall any at the moment but will start keeping track.
> I keep thinking I'll find time to work on all of this but no luck
> so far :)

Please report any feeds that don't work.  Sometimes the problems are
with xml.el.


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Re: nnrss and atom feeds

[Mark Plaksin]

mah@everybody.org (Mark A. Hershberger) writes:

> Please report any feeds that don't work.  Sometimes the problems are
> with xml.el.

After updating to the latest CVS Emacs and CVS Gnus I can only find one
problematic feed.  To read an Atom feed with nnrss, I try to find it at
feedburner.com because it gives an RSS version of the feed.  If it's not
there I create it.  Before updating Emacs and Gnus today this method only
worked some of the time.  I never understood what the differentiator was.

Today I created this feed and nnrss fails to handle it:
http://feeds.feedburner.com/emacspeak

nnrss falls down to the syndic8 case and then says:
gnus-group-make-rss-group: No feeds found for http://feeds.feedburner.com/emacspeak

FWIW, feedvalidator.org says the feed isn't valid because it "uses an
obsolete namespace".  But reader.google.com handles it just fine.