From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23363 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Christensen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Agent startup (how it works) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:30:33 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87r9nckvs6.fsf@chow.mat.jhu.edu> References: <"m3lnfpzejr.fsf"@serpent.laymusic> <87aeu0pyck.fsf@chow.mat.jhu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161109 1572 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:45:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25924 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAB22564; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:46:51 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:47:18 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14301 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:47:07 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.86]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25872 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from scratchy (chow.mat.jhu.edu [128.220.25.2]) by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.2-29 #37929) with ESMTP id <01JCGTJF8PVEEUEQIJ@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:45:55 EDT Original-Received: from jdc by scratchy with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10uHe5-0001sd-00; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:30:33 -0500 In-reply-to: Laura Conrad's message of "16 Jun 1999 10:26:21 -0400" Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.070088 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.88) Emacs/20.3 Original-Lines: 37 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23363 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23363 Laura Conrad writes: > Dan Christensen writes: > > Robert Epprecht writes: > > > ;; =========== .emacs > > > (require 'gnus-agent) > > > > > put (gnus-agentize) at the end of .gnus.el > > > > It would be nice if both of these steps were unnecessary. Is there > > any reason that Gnus isn't always agentized? Besides the "Plugged" in > > the mode line, would a typical non-agent user even notice a > > difference? > > Your news postings and email would never get sent, if you didn't say > "J S". Why not? `M-x gnus' would start Gnus plugged. And when plugged, doesn't Gnus send mail and news immediately? > That's actually one of the things I don't like about the design of the > agent -- I don't think it should affect your mail at all unless you > agentize the mail server. When unplugged: I think that Gnus should fetch incoming mail if the mail server isn't agentized (and not fetch it if the mail server is agentized). ("The" mail server really means any mail server which has the get-new-mail variable set.) And similarly for incoming news. For outgoing mail and news, I think the behaviour should be controlled by a new variable. For example, something like `gnus-agent-queue' with possible values `t' (or `both'), `news', `mail' and `nil' (or `none'). Dan