From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22154 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Greg Stark Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bad (i.e. serious) mail problems Date: 30 Mar 1999 22:23:17 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87r9q64a1m.fsf@x2-150.mtl.Generation.NET> References: <99Mar30.101000est.13914-3@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=NIL X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160126 26650 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:28:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA28808 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:28:04 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAB21889; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:23:43 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:24:08 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17475 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:24:00 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sparkle.Generation.NET (sparkle.Generation.NET [205.205.119.4]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA28665 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:23:51 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from x2-150.mtl.Generation.NET (brnstndkramden.acf.nyu.edu@x2-150.mtl.Generation.NET [209.205.10.58]) by sparkle.Generation.NET (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA22592 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:23:52 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "30 Mar 1999 20:32:19 -0500" Original-Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22154 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22154 Stainless Steel Rat writes: > * Dmitry Yaitskov on Tue, 30 Mar 1999 > > | Where (rfc#) does it say so? Note, the pop3 server (or rather, 3 > | different pop servers that I tested) did not become confused. It was > | the local mail client (gnus) that got confused. > > Then the bug is in Gnus. QED. Indeed SSR, if POP requires you not to mangle the message and you intend to put it in a mbox format you're going to have to pick one standard or the other to violate. Picking the mbox format to violate means generating a broken mbox, so that's right out. Basically if you want to use an mbox spool to transport the mail then you have a design limitation that precludes you following the POP spec in certain circumstances. I know it turns out your code wasn't involved, but it sounds like you seem convinced you should be trusting on network data to preserve the integrity of Gnus's spool. If that's the case you're asking for all kidns of trouble. Security principles dictate that under no condition should data from the network be trusted such that invalid data would break the client. greg