From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6616 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2023 15:46:04 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Oct 2023 15:46:04 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1qqxsv-00CJJ4-2Q for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 10:46:01 -0500 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qqxsu-007sRD-2T for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 10:46:00 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qqsPG-007rKV-1u for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 04:55:02 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1qqsPE-00C7W2-19 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 04:55:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Reply-To:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=UycBEoqAkFi5sQRb9kPKWqfc1ORz56YJMZ5XOGi2RPM=; b=tkB5gcInrVfdjG8iKMBd07wuOg Ti82aLrG+yjmn1tfNId5LcutfLiuaMae5/AGqrzR6JegxJhGqL2a8sZvRo3qyOt2E7PGOxScNbsOQ 2MYwtS0e8EQn0cSZTTguxX3MuowYSMODmF9j/dhpd4Xp+3jAfZdNv03zgnIdBknrYWh4=; Received: from forward102a.mail.yandex.net ([178.154.239.85]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qqsP6-0005sk-Rz for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:54:55 +0200 Received: from mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-51.vla.yp-c.yandex.net (mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-51.vla.yp-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c1d:3e8e:0:640:2b73:0]) by forward102a.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 756BC60A94; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 12:54:51 +0300 (MSK) Received: by mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-51.vla.yp-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id nsb9uKlDTOs0-NKzV0nq9; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 12:54:51 +0300 X-Yandex-Fwd: 1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1697104491; bh=UycBEoqAkFi5sQRb9kPKWqfc1ORz56YJMZ5XOGi2RPM=; h=Message-ID:References:Date:Reply-To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; b=EmDy84m62dpqtZ2F0r/N5OfGKMud4sdH7wgt+dAbF+JVZFDvb+LCzGrCgsW3LjlMs xStnO9gJPbY6l+f3L2m8JQ7bQpPwqIKaCkYMsVZkczN9CFi3xjMpjFmCrAYJoFMkzC VHWzrlpGEmeyJ3EL39nKnDO5DcM4MvmN15Q/TT8Y= Authentication-Results: mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-51.vla.yp-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com From: Colin Baxter To: Eric S Fraga Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Adaptive scoring is enabled but does not take effect In-Reply-To: <87y1g86zls.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> (Eric S. Fraga's message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:58:55 +0100") References: <24501.9203097158$1697075047@news.gmane.org> <87lec88uva.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87y1g86zls.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T Reply-To: m43cap@yandex.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 10:54:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87sf6g413q.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk >>>>> Eric S Fraga writes: > On Thursday, 12 Oct 2023 at 03:58, Emanuel Berg wrote: >> So my question is, do you really need elaborate scoring schemes >> for that small volume of messages? > Scoring (in gnus) is not just for "newsgroups", it works very well > for email. I get several hundred emails a day and scoring > (adaptive and pre-defined) is indispensable in handling the > volume. Even in newsgroups such as emacs-devel there are (were) one or two posters who I thought to be pointlessly aggressive, bordering on abusive. They were easily blocked using scoring. Colin Baxter.