From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87718 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus work Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 10:35:22 -0700 Message-ID: <87shexjy5h.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87vajudasc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zi96ipsc.fsf@passepartout.tim-landscheidt.de> <87wp4aa86j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87efqif9y4.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1507225031 4387 195.159.176.226 (5 Oct 2017 17:37:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 17:37:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.60 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m35932@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Oct 05 19:37:03 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.34]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e0A4w-00082E-KM for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:36:58 +0200 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id c068c9c7-a9f3-11e7-8b7f-b499baa2b07a; Thu, 05 Oct 2017 17:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e0A4H-0001Oa-0E; Thu, 05 Oct 2017 12:36:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e0A4E-0001O2-F0 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 05 Oct 2017 12:36:14 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e0A4D-0002Y1-4S for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 05 Oct 2017 12:36:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1e0A3h-0004zI-8I for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:35:46 +0200 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e0A3S-0006jr-DB for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:35:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 42 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:9VU5DAA7mFry5qa297jhEMp6LRs= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87718 Archived-At: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > Eric writes: > >> The current Gnus manual explicitly says that it does not aim to provide >> a tutorial. Users, however, are obviously in desperate need of a >> tutorial. Most recently, I think Adam Sjøgren (was it Adam?) posted an >> online version of his work-in-progress tutorial, and I know there are a >> few others -- why not incorporate these into the manual? > > I guess it depends on the volatility of the information in the tutorial. > I wouldn't be comfortable with putting, say, Gmail specific instructions > in the manual proper (who knows when service-specific things will > change), where one some silly website, it's fine. > > (Yes, I have the beginning of an unfinished tutorial sitting around¹ :-)) I suppose I see what you mean about the Gmail-specific stuff, but it doesn't take long to edit the manual! If Google really goes under, I think we'll see it coming :) But in principle, would you be okay with putting the tutorial in the manual, once you're happy with it? >> A "getting started" tutorial, and a "moving your existing mail into >> Gnus" tutorial. I had a hell of a time migrating to Gnus whenever that >> was, lo these many years ago, though of course I took no notes and >> immediately after couldn't remember what was so difficult about it. :( > > Often getting the idea of the direction to take is the problem, I > think/guess? > > Importing email (these days) is as "easy" as connecting Gnus to the > IMAP-server containing your old email and copying it. In my case, anyway, this was before I was using IMAP -- I just had a pile of old email in one-file-per-message format, and I was trying to respool through mail-sources to an nnml backend, and had to keep compacting groups, and it was generally horrible. Maybe I can also dig up the how-to that Sivaram mentioned. Eric