Re: gnus-sieve: make it easier to customize.

[Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>]

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:24:38 +1100 Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> wrote: 

DP> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> I've been curious about Sieve but there's no info on using it with Gnus.

DP> The Gnus manual, and the Gnus-Sieve manual, both in info format, don't do it
DP> for you?  In fairness, I guess, they are "technical reference" guides to the
DP> integration features, not anything user-focused about the Sieve language
DP> itself.

Sorry, I meant to say there's no user-focused info on using it with Gnus
as you said.  I was not thinking when I wrote that.  

The information in both manuals is for those who already have Sieve set
up.  It's especially important to explain how Sieve works and how it's
different from client-side Gnus splitting, so maybe that requires a
separate section?

My eventual goal is to store the Gnus registry in a distributed way
(probably via imap-hash.el) and generate Sieve scripts from it to split
by sender, subject, or references.  I don't know if that's the right
approach but it seems most useful.

DP> The short version is, though, that you edit group properties to add a "sieve"
DP> property resembling the expression to file messages into that group:

DP>    INBOX/personal =>
DP>    ((sieve address ["to" "cc"] "daniel@rimspace.net"))

Thanks for explaining.  I saw the example in the "Sieve Commands" node
too.

The Gnus Sieve section points to a broken link
(http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/sieve/index.html#Top).
I think that's because the Emacs Sieve mode has its own manual.
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SieveMode also has some good links.

>> Do we have ManageSieve support in Gnus, and if not, can it be added?

DP> Mostly outside it, but the facilities are there.  Read the Sieve manual
DP> shipped with Emacs for details. :)

Yeah, that seems sufficient.  It seems like there are only a few Sieve
Gnus users, though.  I wonder if it's worth supporting ManageSieve
explicitly in Gnus.  Maybe it's better to concentrate on generating the
rules on the server side from distributed rules, like the Gnus registry
I mentioned.

Ted