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From: Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>
Subject: Re: spam.el reporting and moving ham out of spam groups.
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:46:27 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87smdnkd7g.fsf@enki.rimspace.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874qq4bjr2.fsf@koldfront.dk>

On 26 May 2004, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2004 23:17:34 +1000, Daniel wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, it doesn't seem possible to set spam.el to process
>> messages as ham without setting the group classification as 'spam'.
>
> That's right, I think.
>
> I think spam.el would be doing "what-I-mean" more if it ham-processed
> messages marked as ham in unclassified groups in addition to spam
> groups (that is, all non-ham groups).

That is also undesirable to me, since I want to 'train on errors' for
non-spam as well. :)

What I would really like to be able to do is set, on a per-group basis:

1. which (if any) spam learner is run on spam-marked articles.
2. which (if any) ham learner is run on ham-marked articles.
3. just delete the damn spam marked messages.
4. mark some-or-all messages with the spam mark by default

At the moment I can't have a different configuration for 1 and 2, since
only the `spam-process' group parameter is used, and that defines both
the ham and spam learning side of things.

I only want option 4 to turn it off since it isn't useful for a "train
on errors" paradigm. :)

> (If I mark something as ham, I want it ham-processed (unless it is in
> a ham-group, then I've probably marked it by mistake O:-))

...unless there is some explicit ham mark I have missed, "marked as ham"
means "read, killed or scored down", at least by default...

[...]

> I think the jury is still out on whether the change makes sense
> (except to me :-))

It doesn't make sense to me, because this "process all ham" settings
seems to be the *only* difference between an "unclassified" and a "ham"
group.

Unless I have missed something.
       Daniel
-- 
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
        -- Henry David Thoreau




  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-26  4:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-25 13:17 Daniel Pittman
2004-05-25 14:14 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-26  4:41   ` Daniel Pittman
2004-05-26 16:17     ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-05-25 15:37 ` Adam Sjøgren
2004-05-26  4:46   ` Daniel Pittman [this message]
2004-05-26  8:38     ` Adam Sjøgren
2004-05-26 16:16   ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-05-26 20:29     ` Adam Sjøgren
2004-05-28 19:52       ` Adam Sjøgren
2004-06-07 17:12         ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-06-07 18:15           ` Adam Sjøgren
2004-06-08 14:24             ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-05-26 16:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-05-26 20:23   ` Miles Bader
2004-05-27  6:15   ` Daniel Pittman
2004-05-27 14:35     ` Ted Zlatanov

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