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From: Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>
Subject: Re: Spam spam spam spam spam
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 11:31:35 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sn6h34lk.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3hemym5o4.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 30 Mar 2002 16:33:31 +0100")

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On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> When I woke up today, I had 75 new mail messages.  Out of these, 72
> were spam.  And all different.

Yay, SPAM.

> It's getting pretty annoying.

*nod*  It did for me. Then I found something to do about it. ;)

<http://spamassassin.taint.org/>

> Has anybody done any thinking about how to tie Gnus into the various
> spam inhibitants that exist?  

Yup. 

> I could easily see doing splitting based on ordb/Vipul's
> Razor/Spamassassin/etc, 

SpamAssassin has been the best tool for that sort of thing that I have
met so far. It's based on a heuristic system -- assign points for a
match in ORBZ, Razor, et al.

Given the number of inaccurate reports or deliberate poisonings of ORBZ
and Razor, and the occasional response like "oh, yes, it is an incorrect
listing. Wait a week and it will expire naturally" from SpamCop...

...having something that treats them as a hint, not an accurate binary
yes/no, would be good.

> and having single-stroke commands in Gnus for reporting spam to the
> proper instances.

I have some fairly hackish code that did that for SpamAssassin. 

> Say, `y' to send the spam for open relay checking, Razoring,
> assassination and all the rest.

If you want to write this, the following things would be great:

* pipe message through a clean-up filter.
* send to one or more addresses as a 'bounce' (filtered message as is.)
* send to one or more addresses as an rfc822 attachment.
* pipe message through one or more reporting filters.
* optionally delete the message.
* optionally move the message to a different folder (and backend).

That way I could meet the various submission requirements around the
place. :)


Anyway, I had not gotten the round tuits needed to bring the code up to
date from when it only did a forward-attached to SpamCop. Here it is.
I have signed my papers and everything so feel free to use this as a
basis for something more sensible.

        Daniel


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-31  1:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-30 15:33 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 15:59 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-01 14:44   ` NAGY Andras
2002-04-05 20:01     ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-05 21:41       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-05 22:27         ` Derrell.Lipman
2002-04-09 17:44           ` Toby Speight
2002-04-05 21:42       ` Jon Ericson
2002-04-05 22:59         ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-02 16:31   ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-02 19:52     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-02 22:06       ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-05 19:33         ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-03-30 16:09 ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 16:32   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 16:56     ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-03-30 17:05       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 18:27         ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-04-01 14:46       ` NAGY Andras
2002-04-01 15:11         ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-03-30 17:30     ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 17:34       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 18:27         ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-31 22:00     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-03-30 16:33   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 16:43   ` Henrik Enberg
2002-03-30 16:53     ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 17:35       ` Henrik Enberg
2002-03-30 17:58         ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 18:29           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 18:52             ` Harry Putnam
2002-03-30 19:37         ` Jason R. Mastaler
2002-03-30 23:46           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31  0:38             ` Jason R. Mastaler
2002-04-01 14:07               ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-04-04  3:28                 ` news
2002-03-31  2:07             ` Mark Milhollan
2003-01-01 21:06               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-02 19:02               ` Simon Josefsson
2002-03-30 16:34 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-03-30 16:45   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 16:52     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 17:45     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-03-30 18:29       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 19:28       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31  1:39         ` Paul Jarc
2002-03-31  1:45           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31  1:48             ` Paul Jarc
2002-03-31  1:57               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 15:23                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 16:20                   ` Romain FRANCOISE
2002-03-31 18:19                   ` Russ Allbery
2002-04-02  7:09                     ` Michel Schinz
2002-04-03  5:10                       ` Russ Allbery
2002-04-03 13:50                         ` Frank Schmitt
2002-03-31  1:31 ` Daniel Pittman [this message]
2003-01-01 21:05   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 15:34 ` Fabien Penso
2002-03-31 15:50   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 16:06     ` Fabien Penso
2002-03-31 18:11     ` Russ Allbery
2002-03-31 18:31       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-01 17:22       ` Paul Jarc
2002-04-01 19:25         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-01 19:34           ` Paul Jarc
2002-04-01 18:22 ` Chris Shenton
2002-04-13 22:49 ` John H Palmieri
2002-04-13 23:00   ` Nevin Kapur
2002-04-14  0:04   ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-04-14  0:57   ` Bill White
2002-04-21  3:38   ` Harry Putnam

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