Re: collapsed thread indicator change?

[Neal H Walfield <neal@cs.uml.edu>]

Martin Kretzschmar <Martin.Kretzschmar@inf.tu-dresden.de> writes:

> Neal H Walfield <neal@cs.uml.edu> writes:
>
>>>> I didn't see this in the manual: can the collapsed thread indicator
>>>> [...] be changed?  It would be great if the left side trough (sorry if
>>>> this is not the right term for it) that Emacs 21 has could be used to
>>>> indicate a collapsed thread, for instance.
>>>
>>> If I understand that part of emacs (you speak of the ``fringe'' btw),
>>> there is little chance to do this
>>
>> [ snip ]
>> > please prove me wrong
>>
>> I do not think this is what he is talking about at all.  
>
> OK I focused completely on the not so important 2nd sentence but this
> was the third post with an emacs21-fringe idea which seems hard to
> implement, so I posted this. 
>
>>                                                           Rather, my
>> interpretation is that he is suggesting that a few variables be added
>> to indicate how a collapsed / uncollapsed topic should be indicated to
>> the user.  
>
> Now you've misunderstood something.

Er right, I misread thread as topic.

>  He is talking about threads which
> are a summary buffer thing. Hitting C-M-s on a parent of a thread
> hides its children and display an ellipsis [...] at the end of the
> line.
>
>>             Currently, in the default setup where
>> gnus-topic-line-format is "%i[ %(%{%n%}%) -- %A ]%v\n", we have the
>> following for an open topic:
>>
>>         [ misc -- 0 ]
>>
>> And:
>>
>>         [ misc -- 0 ]...
>>
>> for one which is collapsed (the `...' is create by the %v).
>>
>> Instead, %v should not be fixed and should be be replaced by, for
>> instance, gnus-topic-collapsed-string when collapsed and
>> gnus-topic-uncollapsed-string when open.
>
> Agreed. Search for gnus-topic-insert-topic-line in gnus-topic.el and
> find these two hardcoded. There would be a fast fix. But then, in
> gnus-sum.el, which controls what the OP wanted to customize, this
> doesn't work. The ellipsis is implemented completely differently
> there (without %v). I have almost found a way to change it there.
>
> 	Martin
>
> btw, why aren't we discussing this on the list?

Oops.  I hit the wrong keys.