From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/38724 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Neal H Walfield Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: collapsed thread indicator change? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:01:53 +0200 Sender: Neal H Walfield Message-ID: <87snds2ya6.fsf@bassanio.walfield.org> References: <878zfl796r.fsf@mogli.aximilation.org> <87g09t4dpt.fsf@bassanio.walfield.org> <877kv41o1c.fsf@mogli.aximilation.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174540 23946 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:29:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 17018 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2001 16:01:03 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO colo.walfield.org) (mail@209.113.166.29) by gnus.org with SMTP; 12 Sep 2001 16:01:03 -0000 Original-Received: from aph-aug-101-1-4-76.abo.wanadoo.fr (bassanio.walfield.org) [193.253.237.76] (mail) by colo.walfield.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15hCbW-0006Ye-00; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:11:11 -0500 Original-Received: from neal by bassanio.walfield.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 15hCSX-0007tq-00; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:01:53 +0200 Original-To: Martin Kretzschmar In-Reply-To: <877kv41o1c.fsf@mogli.aximilation.org> (Martin Kretzschmar's message of "Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:28:31 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/20.7 Original-Lines: 65 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38724 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38724 Martin Kretzschmar writes: > Neal H Walfield writes: > >>>> I didn't see this in the manual: can the collapsed thread indicator >>>> [...] be changed? It would be great if the left side trough (sorry if >>>> this is not the right term for it) that Emacs 21 has could be used to >>>> indicate a collapsed thread, for instance. >>> >>> If I understand that part of emacs (you speak of the ``fringe'' btw), >>> there is little chance to do this >> >> [ snip ] >> > please prove me wrong >> >> I do not think this is what he is talking about at all. > > OK I focused completely on the not so important 2nd sentence but this > was the third post with an emacs21-fringe idea which seems hard to > implement, so I posted this. > >> Rather, my >> interpretation is that he is suggesting that a few variables be added >> to indicate how a collapsed / uncollapsed topic should be indicated to >> the user. > > Now you've misunderstood something. Er right, I misread thread as topic. > He is talking about threads which > are a summary buffer thing. Hitting C-M-s on a parent of a thread > hides its children and display an ellipsis [...] at the end of the > line. > >> Currently, in the default setup where >> gnus-topic-line-format is "%i[ %(%{%n%}%) -- %A ]%v\n", we have the >> following for an open topic: >> >> [ misc -- 0 ] >> >> And: >> >> [ misc -- 0 ]... >> >> for one which is collapsed (the `...' is create by the %v). >> >> Instead, %v should not be fixed and should be be replaced by, for >> instance, gnus-topic-collapsed-string when collapsed and >> gnus-topic-uncollapsed-string when open. > > Agreed. Search for gnus-topic-insert-topic-line in gnus-topic.el and > find these two hardcoded. There would be a fast fix. But then, in > gnus-sum.el, which controls what the OP wanted to customize, this > doesn't work. The ellipsis is implemented completely differently > there (without %v). I have almost found a way to change it there. > > Martin > > btw, why aren't we discussing this on the list? Oops. I hit the wrong keys.