From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/38267 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Martin Kretzschmar Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Suggestion for additional %B-leaf type Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:10:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87snehfyz1.fsf@inf.tu-dresden.de> References: <87snekt5w8.fsf@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174160 21483 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:22:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 28276 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2001 20:14:15 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (213.165.64.20) by gnus.org with SMTP; 24 Aug 2001 20:14:15 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 11492 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 2001 20:13:47 -0000 Original-Received: from h117.ibc.de.easynet.net (HELO mogli.kretzschmar) (212.224.4.117) by mail.gmx.net (mp001-rz3) with SMTP; 24 Aug 2001 20:13:47 -0000 X-Gnus-Agent-Meta-Information: mail nil Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:58:15 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.104 Original-Lines: 53 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38267 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38267 [I guess I need some Message training. Thought I had sent this 7 hours ago] Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Martin Kretzschmar writes: > >> Question 1: Is it, under any circumstances possible that an adopted >> article has brothers? > > Sure. If the parent is missing, all the children will be adopted by > the eldest sibling. Oops. I mixed up the real relationship between those articles and their representation in %B formats. With %B there never seem to be two adopted articles with the same parents, each adopted article is indented more than it's brother from the line above. Is this a bug or a feature of %B? I use %B as a replacement for %I. Looking closer I see that %I does not indent adopted articles like %B, it's more like the real relationship between them. >> Question 2: Could this be integrated into Oort? > > I don't know what mutt's thingamabob looks like. Could you explain > what this is supposed to do? And can't this be implemented by format > string specs instead of a new variable? With the patch, the adopted articles' branches of the tree look different from non-adopted articles'. Compare these two threads (the left column has obviously %B in it, the right %I) [ 15: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen] [ 15: Lars Magne Ingebrigts= en] \*> < 22: Kai Gro=DFjohann > < 22: Kai Gro=DFjohan= n > \*> < 13: Per Abrahamsen > < 13: Per Abrahamsen = > o [ 25: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen] [ 25: Lars Magne Ingebrigts= en] \-> [ 29: Maciej Matysiak ] [ 29: Maciej Matysiak = ] In mutt (as I understand it) adopted articles have that `*' in their tree. %B without the patch had given `\->' to the adopted articles in the upper thread. I can't imagine how to implement this by format string specs. The old^W unpatched %B behaviour can of course be obtained by setting `gnus-sum-thread-tree-adopted-leaf' to `\->', too. > Hmm... I haven't really tried the tree view thingie. And the > variables like `gnus-sum-thread-tree-vertical' aren't documented. > Could somebody fix this, please? And perhaps make those variables > customizable?=20 I have never used texinfo :-(). And should the `sum' be expanded before mak= ing them more public. The names would still fit on one line in messages discussing them ;-). I guess they'd get their own defgroup. Martin