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Thu, 07 Apr 2022 09:10:57 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1649315453; bh=8Ma08Vr7Ac3HQUrVKRLoO5vOqdsof9nwx/eQ+o3Rw+g=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=kW/C3bd/mmdJB3r5+CgTYG6UabCUhNqodnEjfyAX65RyesDrRV01qeMUO4LRCH08h F4T58l6IH8IxlHYl1w4UmPqXmNb/723zn3X5+Gkc8mkbHEksokZDXkPOVYs7olYgev nI8OTXHWduINGk6BSYLqOLZfSjVUIVj2Ckm2k+6M= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([79.140.118.138]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MGhuU-1np3ao3H4E-00Dldv for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 09:10:52 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: *Group* inherits default-directory References: <878rshdcqa.fsf@gnus.org> <87wng123zh.fsf@zoho.eu> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 09:10:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87wng123zh.fsf@zoho.eu> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Thu, 07 Apr 2022 01:20:50 +0200") Message-ID: <87tub5gygz.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:DtOXqrX/nYzYQtypzcIEAd7FEcWt7q92t1H17vfgXF5KD4T5Nc8 /f72zHcFxZyEkC88A5l++0YTBXJQtP2Cx87HUhpmDB5Y6Q1JuixD8djLli3P2BFM8chEzcY JssFBEQCAc6KSmF1wLbYDhXNnka+g0QK9k4GJ2b/tFR9EU3iXoWQrTmTuf6tfFlZqA54bh2 qJNwbEHsxSCNc5jwNS4aA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:hIyIqEoC5Ps=:2saH9wEw/zeyPgkOiQsgUA OIRpIFY01JURS1SOQJbCfDtDZ/oQN6Ky0nbb1dVT2+uWnBjAIHP6zRja9swt5HSef/IUHxON4 X7NgVhdfcmYQ9AtNKUxRnUjw3/EMZ7R1bhEUzxz0c2+fx9BQMvsqvClJoQ0FMcXGGFS8j/TTC 5Dga3boVjVnMKDEnKUWS9/xfjXDviSnTGyvr/ntzong5dwpX1Cxo2Av++ZldK9b4GwAwub1zZ GsB333Ay265STANgmQ+x7JKOlNJHJsDMFuw+xoVbkt88NogQUa8b5OWQYMBk0Wnfe6bms/qwA 9EAUt4gyZLDqmriqX3ZpzhtasPzUiAM/0KElilWHjb1K4QQjcDQA2PHyG6AbbSKz3+BDDrR7D Wcqxi9Kgd0tKbKie0iEPfBG22vfRmhghP5+TRnZiB4wwJ7yRTK0trSx0xgFtJXJwiAmFX7GT0 r7OELUHA0+ugdnkhjDDYaMIYFCBrJcLrFyH8pNUy9FV98e6EpCCBuMr+gMSHMxgOvnmiaVbBQ Uy0CRGEbhXrM0DJa0ko/PpWCYwRR4QjFFK4POBzDw++iTPyPSHPFzizexjkMXhc15Lfj+RkLO mNyNJXqzJDKMgIilthIFxWM0Pp9+J+InZA8oOYv/R/MenxeY6DhlSuVrYGmkuo4QpcmXPTdcP ffyAphgZr81Mg01HxhM8evDrsyMHIfdw+d9W7RwU0zEiMABLZVfN5OiKnd+ogV1/pvptAsmU/ uRJSCOPvia40nzH6cKGSoXQO/Yx/hcYoG3JEgdJhchJR9Ni6P/1hvEAwpRzjoMXr6R2dXX0/v mNUJ1r0+4DsivLajwASJ/zH5ieTdR1UXa5p5vGBN4fG5qbs61kWwrF1chi66wCGXHrKNqk7yy GmWQj5FupN+p89yD/bix1dXMRyc05D17JKIr3WI+UfQUCUPZNiXLF7Lq64FYMVW/VYLZC6xng 2y+oiFRffKLpzLe59KCPxUNJUzKN1LSNCesAdBO7cYUnR89J4sdmqGd11dbXz6YuwAiFU9OKo ETnjx7YWLEOKmO+9PmdkM4wf00CdmMj4ZVBi7ngmXbPfZ7ZFH00r9tGXqzVYRNtc3dK9VnKKM xjYqh8710TMYhA= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Emanuel Berg writes: Hi, >>> I encountered a pretty bad interaction between Gnus and Tramp >>> (see >>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/tramp-devel/2022-04/msg00003.html >>> and ff) >>> because the `*Group*` buffer inherits `default-directory' from the >>> buffer from which Gnus is called. >> >> This is how most special mode buffers work -- they inherit >> the `default-directory' from when they were started. >> >> If you want something else in Gnus, set >> `gnus-default-directory'. > > Right, that explains why I couldn't get it to "work" - yeah, > I have that set to "~/News". > > But other than that, that's what I said, I said it makes sense > for Trump! > > Just not ... for us. > > errr Tramp cannot change this behavior. It doesn't know anything about mm-image-load-path it is called from. Best regards, Michael.