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From: Bob Newell <bobnewell@bobnewell.net>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Proposed new introductory section to the Gnus manual
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 08:39:34 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tv9lmhzt.fsf@bobnewell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a7bdelf4.fsf@gmail.com> (dick's message of "Mon, 09 Sep 2019 07:52:47 -0400")

dick <dick.r.chiang@gmail.com> writes:

> redguardtoo's document (along with other google hits for "Gnus
> tutorial") got me nowhere.  It's unfortunate that it received 5000 github
> stars (mostly from users in China).

Yes, this is the one I referenced:

https://github.com/redguardtoo/mastering-emacs-in-one-year-guide/blob/master/gnus-guide-en.org

I suppose YMMV but I found it very useful (in conjunction with another
on using gnus with gmail). Now, at the time I first read it, I was
already well into Gnus, but it gave me some useful tips and I think if
it were to be read patiently, it would help a newcomer a lot. Of course
it could use some editing and cleanup, but that's quite doable.

> By plying Google's search algo,
> it has become the unoffical guide to Gnus, which is one reason
> among many why Gnus is on the wane relative to notmuch and mu4e.

I must disagree with the 3rd clause, that this is driving users away. I
think if you approach gnus with the idea that "I'm not going to do this
unless it's dead easy" then you've already lost and you're better off
with Thunderbird or some sort of web mail (I can't speak to notmuch or
mu4e, having never used either one).

And is gnus truly on the wane? I imagine getting stats to support an
argument either way would be difficult. But as I've alluded to earlier,
gnus is niche software. It appeals to a certain mindset. While it's (to
me at least[1]) the most powerful and flexible email/news client
imaginable, I don't know that it ever was intended to have appeal across
a broad spectrum.

-- 
Bob Newell
Honolulu, Hawai`i
* Via Gnus/BBDB/Org/Emacs/Linux *

[1] It even lets me collect my AOL mail along with my gmail :)



  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-09 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-18 23:26 Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-19  0:34 ` dick.r.chiang
2019-08-19  1:06   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-19  2:46     ` Bob Newell
2019-08-19  7:01       ` Eric S Fraga
2019-08-20  4:26         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-20 11:37           ` dick
2019-09-09  8:13             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-09 11:52               ` dick
2019-09-09 18:39                 ` Bob Newell [this message]
2019-09-09 19:48                   ` dick
2019-09-10  2:36                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-10 20:21                       ` dick
2019-09-10 23:50                         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-12 19:19                           ` Michael
2019-09-13  9:19                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-13 15:08                               ` Eric S Fraga
2019-09-13 16:54                               ` Michael
2019-09-16  2:51                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-13 18:24                               ` Bob Newell
2019-09-13 18:39                                 ` Change input method or smtp server depending on addressee (was: Proposed new introductory section to the Gnus manual) Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
2019-09-14 17:38                                   ` Change input method or smtp server depending on addressee Štěpán Němec
2019-09-16 18:26                                     ` Bob Newell
2019-09-16  8:52                                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-12-20 12:54                                   ` 황병희
2019-09-16  2:55                                 ` Proposed new introductory section to the Gnus manual Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-16 18:34                                   ` Bob Newell
2019-09-10 20:39                     ` Adam Sjøgren
2019-09-10 20:54                       ` dick
2019-09-12  5:31                       ` Steinar Bang
2019-09-07 19:50           ` Adam Sjøgren
2019-09-08 17:00             ` Bob Newell
2019-08-19 16:01       ` Adam Sjøgren
2019-08-19 18:04         ` Bob Newell
2019-08-19 18:09           ` Adam Sjøgren
2019-08-20  4:29         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-09-07 19:44           ` Adam Sjøgren
2019-08-19 16:16       ` Eric S Fraga
2019-08-20  7:08       ` Bjørn Mork
2019-08-20  9:51         ` Eric S Fraga
2019-08-20 10:32           ` Bjørn Mork
2019-08-20 10:55             ` Eric S Fraga
2019-08-19 17:55 ` Adam Sjøgren

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