From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/86519 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.sxemacs.devel,gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: Moving Gnus development to Emacs? Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:24:30 -0800 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <87twmua5cx.fsf@olgas.newt.com> References: <87lh8b6jnl.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451847026 19392 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2016 18:50:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 18:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org To: sxemacs-devel@sxemacs.org Original-X-From: sxemacs-devel-bounces@lists.sxemacs.org Sun Jan 03 19:50:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gesd-sxemacs-devel-2@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from zapata.dreamhost.com ([66.33.216.56]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFnjG-0006zh-Cb for gesd-sxemacs-devel-2@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 19:50:10 +0100 Original-Received: from zapata.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapata.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145BE8DB0C38; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:50:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from homiemail-mx7.g.dreamhost.com (mx2.sub3.homie.mail.dreamhost.com [69.163.253.9]) by zapata.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A858DB1273 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:50:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from diehard.dreamhost.com (caiajhbdcbfh.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.157]) by homiemail-mx7.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6771B5A245 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:50:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by diehard.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7430E17BE2C2 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:50:06 -0800 (PST) X-DH-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at diehard.dreamhost.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.01 tagged_above=-999 required=999 tests=[T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Original-Received: from connor.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.17]) by localhost (diehard.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.157]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q5FgvXtnGDzJ for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:50:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by connor.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559312C98218 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:50:13 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFnj9-0006ry-E1 for sxemacs-devel@sxemacs.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 19:50:03 +0100 Original-Received: from c-50-161-94-63.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([50.161.94.63]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 19:50:03 +0100 Original-Received: from wohler by c-50-161-94-63.hsd1.ca.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 19:50:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-50-161-94-63.hsd1.ca.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5rfrnvCGi8vyjXcINkB+aOk4FTw= X-BeenThere: sxemacs-devel@lists.sxemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SXEmacs developers' list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sxemacs-devel-bounces@lists.sxemacs.org Original-Sender: "SXEmacs-Devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.sxemacs.devel:3607 gmane.emacs.devel:197483 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:86519 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:39521 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > After the discussion here, I think I've decided to move Gnus development > to Emacs and Emacsify the code for greater readability. We moved MH-E to Emacs a few years ago. One welcome consequence of this is that we have had more developers improving the code. Lars, will you continue to have separate Gnus version numbers? Will you move the bug tracker? MH-E still maintains separate version numbers and we're still using SourceForge for our bug tracking and a Git repository for MH-E files that may not be appropriate for the Emacs repository (contrib, Debian files, maintainers guide, web pages, tests, files for independent MH-E releases). Have you also considered moving Gnus to ELPA someday? > If {S,}XEmacs wants to keep tracking Gnus development, this > unfortunately means that the onus is on the {S,}XEmacs maintainers to > add an ever-growing number of Emacs compat functions, and expand > function call lists to keep up with Emacs function call lists. We still have a small file with compatibility functions for older Emacsen and XEmacs. It would be better if XEmacs provided the compatibility so each package wouldn't have to. -- Bill Wohler aka http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD