From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/85528 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: autoloads only generated on every 2nd make Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:15:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87twze2es3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wq6qfidr.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> <87bnlmji1j.fsf@building.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422256579 20377 80.91.229.3 (26 Jan 2015 07:16:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 07:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: ding-owner+M33770@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Jan 26 08:16:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YFduB-0000DB-EO for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:16:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1YFdu5-0001s9-38; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 01:16:09 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1YFdu1-0001rp-Ek for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 01:16:05 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YFdtx-0002Sk-0V for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 01:16:05 -0600 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YFdtu-00088U-RG; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:15:58 +0100 Original-Received: from thinkpad-t440p (dhcp99.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.71.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 886251A84AD; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:15:57 +0100 (CET) Mail-Followup-To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87bnlmji1j.fsf@building.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:13:28 +1100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85528 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> % make clean-some gnus-load.el >> rm -f *.elc gnus-load.el auto-autoloads.* custom-load.* >> make: 'gnus-load.el' is up to date. >> >> Huh? How can gnus-load.el by up to date? You've just deleted it... > > Huh. That does seem odd. > >> I can't see any changes in Gnus' Makefile.ins, so it might also be a >> problem with GNU make itself. That has been updated to 4.1 on 6th >> November which could be the beginning of the problem although I feel >> that it started more recently than that... > > I'm not seeing this myself, and I don't really understand the autoconf > stuff in depth... This is still absolute reproducible here even with a complete fresh checkout. "make clean-some gnus-load.el" in gnus/lisp/ alternates between --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- rm -f *.elc gnus-load.el auto-autoloads.* custom-load.* lispdir="/home/horn/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus" srcdir=. emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -l ./dgnushack.el -f dgnushack-make-cus-load . Loading cus-dep... Directory . Generating cus-load.el... Generating cus-load.el...done lispdir="/home/horn/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus" srcdir=. emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -l ./dgnushack.el -f dgnushack-make-auto-load . lispdir="/home/horn/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus" srcdir=. emacs -batch -q -no-site-file -l ./dgnushack.el -f dgnushack-make-load Generating /home/horn/tmp/gnus/lisp/gnus-load.el... Compiling /home/horn/tmp/gnus/lisp/gnus-load.el... --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- and --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- rm -f *.elc gnus-load.el auto-autoloads.* custom-load.* make: 'gnus-load.el' is up to date. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Oh, what works is if I rename the gnus-load.el target to gnus-load.elx. It seems that my make version behaves differently than previous versions when a target is named like a file... I'll go investigating with the make guys. Bye, Tassilo