From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83165 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Christensen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: isync plus dovecot? Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:35:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87txm2dmwv.fsf@uwo.ca> References: <874ne3xwpu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87d2srf4yp.fsf@uwo.ca> <874ne2uudj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368779756 3494 80.91.229.3 (17 May 2013 08:35:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 08:35:56 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31431@lists.math.uh.edu Fri May 17 10:35:55 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UdG8n-0002Ui-8Y for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2013 10:35:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UdG8V-0003yp-S4; Fri, 17 May 2013 03:35:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UdG8U-0003yZ-If for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 May 2013 03:35:34 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UdG8P-00018W-A9 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 May 2013 03:35:34 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UdG8N-0003yB-8V for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 17 May 2013 10:35:27 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UdG8M-00028i-KA for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 17 May 2013 10:35:26 +0200 Original-Received: from a85-138-74-16.cpe.netcabo.pt ([85.138.74.16]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 May 2013 10:35:26 +0200 Original-Received: from jdc by a85-138-74-16.cpe.netcabo.pt with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 May 2013 10:35:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: a85-138-74-16.cpe.netcabo.pt User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:JAmds38qt7DUlk5INmCfSknaUZM= X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83165 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: >>> Is it enough just to have mbsync dump to a Maildir directly, and then >>> tell gnus to access that maildir via dovecot? >> >> That might work too, but I decided to let dovecot be in charge of the >> Maildir directory, and make both Gnus and offlineimap interact with that >> directory via the IMAP protocol. My method of syncing the non-standard >> flags relies on this. > > Ugh, clearly I just don't know enough about how this all actually works > to make an informed decision. I don't even really get what letting > dovecot "be in charge of the Maildir directory" really means. Offlineimap has two modes of operation. The original way it worked was to connect to a remote IMAP server using the IMAP protocol and to write directly to a Maildir in the local filesystem. In this mode of operation, you don't need a local IMAP server like dovecot, it's just a Maildir <--> remote IMAP sync. An alternate way is for offlineimap to synchronize between two IMAP servers located anywhere on the internet. Offlineimap uses the IMAP protocol to do this, and has no knowledge of how the servers store the messages on disk. I use this way. > And if the other Eric is able to use the native Gnus agent and it > works fine offline, why is everyone jumping through all these hoops? It seems to me that there are very frequent complaints about the agent / IMAP interaction on this mailing list, and I believe that Lars doesn't use the agent (at least not for IMAP), so I don't trust that set-up. Dan