From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79765 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How does Lars read Ding? Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:22:29 +0800 Message-ID: <87ty916mga.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87obzgxvm9.fsf@tsdh.uni-koblenz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314581036 14516 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2011 01:23:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 01:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: tassilo@member.fsf.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28059@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Aug 29 03:23:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QxqZq-00075e-NA for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 03:23:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QxqYl-0004eq-27; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:22:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QxqYj-0004ei-VP for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:22:41 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QxqYi-0006yZ-28 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:22:41 -0500 Original-Received: from caiajhbdcaid.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.83] helo=homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QxqYf-0002dU-TF for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 03:22:38 +0200 Original-Received: from homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A52598070; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:22:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=jidanni.org; b=gPh65ctFz+kWQ GxjvqKTM8WjOvxzw77dsjB9JtKQIC3gB+SfmQgJmirHfCKXVjHI9t4rgRw77UtyG TNPb7PrKc79xsyjHjfPp/GI9YSFEfPe+DUMpkVUhuDHzR6SjplrwQXsUdGvNBtV6 Ydvi3EVidkU5Ztoa2ViPrh1TAIqdt4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=hRwzhRp0w781ackMXKl MwgCrrH0=; b=KZM64mDglJC8aJ3CnwshFWtD5AfLGfBTjqw3tjjDmxMBOJhOqjq Ax0vP5oy+rOuznnV3ma6SY6aLQQfoqVevKy1kir/UpDYCcQhQkDlMTQ/hSZtUBd8 ZLnQDvhiH4zb3wlAPJU4lFDpy2tD8lMde0XEnfFsE0G7PoXpyEmZUC5o= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-0-111.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.0.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F07359806C; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:22:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-48--212h-0s--2d--Lars, 0.000-20--85h-0s--2d--horn, 0.000-18--79h-0s--1d--UD:gmane.org, 0.000-16--68h-0s--2d--Horn, 0.000-1480--6586h-2s--0d--H*M:fsf Spam tokens: 0.917-4341--4245h-58278s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:quimby.gnus.org, 0.917-4341--4245h-58278s--0d--H*RU:quimby.gnus.org, 0.917-3855--3796h-51937s--0d--H*Ad:D*gnus.org, 0.904-3673--5123h-59705s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-Internal:quimby.gnus.org, 0.904-3673--5123h-59705s--0d--H*RT:80.91.231.51 Autolearn status: no 2.2 RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY RBL: NJABL: sender is an open proxy [218.163.0.111 listed in combined.njabl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [208.97.132.83 listed in list.dnswl.org] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79765 Archived-At: >>>>> "TH" =3D=3D Tassilo Horn writes: TH> asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sj=C3=B8gren) writes: >> $ echo -e "GROUP gmane.emacs.gnus.general\nHEAD 79706\nQUIT" | nc news= .gmane.org nntp | egrep '^(Message-ID|Xref):' >> Message-ID: <87aab1k78j.fsf@jidanni.org> >> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen:2690 gmane.emacs= .gnus.general:79706 TH> Strange. Now the mid search TH> http://mid.gmane.org/87aab1k78j.fsf%40jidanni.org TH> shows TH> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen, gmane.emacs.gnus.gene= ral TH> for that article. I was kinda sure it was only the former group TH> yesterday. Probably, I'm getting old... No. It is a bug that {the gmane administrators} refuse to fix. The bug is: even though * http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen/2690 * http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79706 both exist, you will always see that article in * http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.linux.debian.devel.emacsen/ and never in * http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/ because only the first group of a crosspost gets indexed. B U G. BB UU GG= . "But who cares, right, because everything works fine if you read instead via NNTP, so we'll fix it around year 2038, because nobody reads via the web interface." is probably the thinking of the executive staff :-(