From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78256 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leonidas Tsampros Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Tutorials and worg like site for gnus. Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:02:53 +0300 Message-ID: <87tyek8m8y.fsf@bifteki.lan> References: <87vcz0sqjg.fsf@live.com> <87d3l8d95g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87aagcbjjz.fsf@bifteki.lan> <87k4fgbg2h.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301511822 9434 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2011 19:03:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26566@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Mar 30 21:03:38 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q50g5-00086v-2h for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:03:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q50fe-00049n-2b; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:03:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q50fc-00049W-D5 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:03:08 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q50fX-0006gp-5t for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:03:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q50fW-0000dJ-7i for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:03:02 +0200 Original-Received: by wyb29 with SMTP id 29so2151467wyb.17 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:02:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=oCp5o2QviR1aZEeSY3pTB8hZfPPBcXT8FFkL5EMWVBo=; b=Pj/3nkq+zL7Y+MUAkQ+EnrykmHLHAhkBUvw0ZFJN+Rd9RXN5KfOP3gYFMK8afDH0u6 Su1BQWGU+oMFUXm3qFLI0sogMZ8FPePACzs4uCOK2/9rbrND2sbMAX5QwZ9iwck/AQ8q lANElugTqWBK4ACWM1jiDKRYH68r1yZys8bls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=BnkvWr1SEmYaaiKkNma5114LTk6+1/+mQCqMqxHthXi/uTV3apnOb0aioa0WkqZZuh jcLdDzZ+T3UZ9mQKfxzqLrzInK5EYEhbBXkGE/tX4snYFogYIb1H3JZI6kUFQ7IliXnY VFmYrqNK6Oi7Mb6C6hq6S2WTYBlNxJVxuOC38= Original-Received: by 10.227.32.69 with SMTP id b5mr1713881wbd.99.1301511776543; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bifteki.lan (178.128.149.52.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [178.128.149.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o6sm216351wbo.54.2011.03.30.12.02.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ltsampros-ferrari-one-200 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bifteki.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E8D64A27D; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:02:53 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: <87k4fgbg2h.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:48:06 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78256 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:32:48 +0300 Leonidas Tsampros wrote: > > LT> While I've been trying to keep myself as far as possible from git-gnus > LT> (It's not for the faint hearted), it would be very much intresting to > LT> see what will Cloudy Gnus has to offer from a feature perspective and > LT> what old functionality is expected to break. > > It's vaporware. I want it to allow synchronizing almost everything > about Gnus to a central server (with a fallback to local storage so > everything will work as you'd expect). I think Lars and Julien are sort > of interested in the same features but we will probably end up chewing > over this a lot once No Gnus is final. > That was my understanding too but I think I got a little bit lost in translation while reading the thread. All in all, I think that's a great idea, if for example my laptop gnus could sync with my desktop through a tramp method once in a while. (unison experiments were painful to put it mildly :P) However, in order to get people test stuff, changes have to be carefully planned and rolled out. Mail are precious to most of us. And towards this I'm asking this one thing: How often and when is the gnus trunk pushed to the emacs bzr trunk? (I know that it happens, albeit I have not found any specific information on these stuff). Knowing the answer to the above will help me to understand which trunk to follow, because, you know, following two different moving targets is already complicated and prone to errors. > LT> Is there any comprehensive list of things that WILL be changed and are > LT> expected to break in the near future with regards to the standard > LT> functionality that is already offered by Gnus? > > No, it's vaporware :) > > Ted Thanks! Leonidas