From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/72803 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Julien Danjou Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Returning to ticks on read-only imap servers Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:34:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87tykwpjfl.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> References: <87eic45u1n.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <8762xdsn0d.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <87zkuozgr5.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <87vd5czggz.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1286566562 26857 80.91.229.12 (8 Oct 2010 19:36:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:36:02 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M21175@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Oct 08 21:36:00 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P4IjW-0005cE-J1 for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:35:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Ij9-0007mk-Jc; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:35:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Ij7-0007mQ-W2 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:35:33 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Ij6-0001rS-8H for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:35:33 -0500 Original-Received: from prometheus.naquadah.org ([212.85.154.174] helo=mx1.naquadah.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1P4Ij5-0001lU-00 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:35:31 +0200 Original-Received: by mx1.naquadah.org (Postfix, from userid 8) id 5366F5C0F4; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 21:34:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on prometheus.naquadah.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Original-Received: from keller.adm.naquadah.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:2e39:e900:222:faff:fe9d:ce44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.naquadah.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3DB3B5C0EA for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 21:34:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from jd by keller.adm.naquadah.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4IiU-0002Fg-J6 for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:34:54 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 08 Oct 2010 20:49:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:72803 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 08 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Not. :-) You only know the number, not which ones, so you can't really > say what happened. But you do not care about which ones in the group buffer, I think. > If you had high 50, unseen 25, and it increase to high 55, unseen 23, > how do you know whether that's 5 new articles, and two old that were > read, or 1 new article, and three that were read? What's "high"? The last article number (UIDNEXT?) ? > Just work through the scenarios, and keep in mind that the UIDNEXT isn't > necessarily consecutive.=20 I did not talk about UIDNEXT, but about UIDVALIDITY, which if it changes, indicate a change in the mailbox. My point is that in the *Group* buffer we (mostly) need how many messages and how many unread message there's in the group, and STATUS give that for free, with an indicator (UIDVALIDITY) indicating *if* we need to do a FETCH 1:* on group entering. :-) =2D-=20 Julien Danjou // =E1=90=B0 http://julien.danjou.info --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkyvcl4ACgkQpGK1HsL+5c2howCfZU8zruVajdCf5fCS8IbkyRnJ Z30AoJ2BrFYKQHqBXCok3Ztpu+1wDK0p =3Vy8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--