From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/71336 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Christensen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: More IMAP testing, please Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:33:26 -0400 Message-ID: <87tylisxh5.fsf@uwo.ca> References: <87ocbsuu51.fsf@andy.bu.edu> <87iq20ymof.fsf@rimspace.net> <87mxrb313t.fsf@rimspace.net> <87mxrb6nlv.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877hif6mzd.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87tylj57ka.fsf@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <87wrqf56n4.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285097636 14853 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2010 19:33:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:33:56 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M19709@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Sep 21 21:33:53 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy8bB-0004Iz-3F for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:33:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy8b1-0004Cz-9C; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:33:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy8az-0004Ci-Ah for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:33:41 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy8ay-0005Yc-0o for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:33:41 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Oy8ax-0001sY-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:33:39 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy8at-0004AD-DS for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:33:35 +0200 Original-Received: from bas3-london14-1096787025.dsl.bell.ca ([65.95.164.81]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:33:35 +0200 Original-Received: from jdc by bas3-london14-1096787025.dsl.bell.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:33:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: bas3-london14-1096787025.dsl.bell.ca User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4BJBTUUy5fWAdltYoEHj+kTdCj0= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:71336 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > It places an extra burden on every user ("what is that? should I use > it?") for the sake of the few who don't have UIDPLUS. Articles marked > as `E' (expirable) are clearly meant to be deleted sooner or later so > doing it sooner is not a problem IMO. Again, I don't see what articles marked with 'E' have to do with the expunging problem. (I read Lars' reply to my last message, and it confirmed how I thought things worked.) If I mark an article with E, and Gnus does a full expunge on the IMAP group, that article will be fine, since it isn't marked as \Deleted. So I think it's fine for Gnus to simply do a full expunge when UIDPLUS is not supported. It should only affect articles that get marked as \Deleted (but don't get expunged) by another client, since Gnus doesn't do that. (But if I'm misunderstanding something, then let me make it clear that I *don't* think it's fine for articles marked 'E' to be expired early just because I do `B DEL' on a different article. But I don't think this will happen.) Dan