From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68839 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus' speed Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:30:13 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87tz0v7362.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87zlao7j1z.fsf@CPU107.opentrends.net> <87iqhb7w7a.fsf@CPU107.opentrends.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248892531 28481 80.91.229.12 (29 Jul 2009 18:35:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:35:31 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M17259@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jul 29 20:35:24 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MWDzo-0002tX-F9 for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:35:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MWDzY-00022F-1m; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MWDzW-00021s-LW for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:35:06 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MWDzW-00041O-1i for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:35:06 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1MWE05-0002FB-00 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:35:41 +0200 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MWDzS-0006w9-Ef for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:35:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 17 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:hIw+wiM96dLc+ble+uRkrx+VCaU= X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68839 Archived-At: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:44:53 +0200 David Engster wrote: DE> My general assessment "scoring is slow" is not correct. It's not the DE> actual scoring that is slow, but only the retrieval of additional DE> header/body information from the article, which however can often be DE> avoided as you describe. This connects with my other comment on IMAP retrieval. But there's a bigger problem: Gnus is by design synchronous. You enter a group, then wait for the summary buffer to be built. Gnus doesn't have the concept of "enter a buffer and let the articles come in asynchronously" and I doubt it's possible without some multithreading support in Emacs Lisp, which has been discussed many times but is probably far in the future (at least a year, judging by threads in emacs-devel). Gnus blocks on many other operations too. Ted