Agent expiry issues

Agent expiry issues

[Kai Großjohann]

I was thinking that it would be nice if the agent copy of a message
would be deleted at the time when the server-side copy is deleted.
How could one go about this?

(Note that there is still the cache which will keep articles even
after they are deleted on the server.  I guess when the agent and the
cache are unified, the new thingy needs to support both modes of
operation.)

kai
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Re: Agent expiry issues

[Daniel Pittman]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Kai Großjohann wrote:

[...]

> (Note that there is still the cache which will keep articles even
> after they are deleted on the server.  I guess when the agent and the
> cache are unified, the new thingy needs to support both modes of
> operation.)

Yes, that would be needed. I use the cache regularly to retain copies of
news articles that have long since expired on my upstream server.

One day I plan on transferring them somewhere else, right after I
migrate ~2GB of mail into an IMAP server from NNML without losing my
marks...

        Daniel

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Re: Agent expiry issues

[Clemens Fischer]

Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>:

> One day I plan on transferring them somewhere else, right after I
> migrate ~2GB of mail into an IMAP server from NNML without losing my
> marks...

you have 2GB worth of private emails?

clemens

Re: Agent expiry issues

[Daniel Pittman]

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Clemens Fischer wrote:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>:
> 
>> One day I plan on transferring them somewhere else, right after I
>> migrate ~2GB of mail into an IMAP server from NNML without losing my
>> marks...
> 
> you have 2GB worth of private emails?

2.2GB, but it's got quite a few public mailing lists in it. Given the
falling costs of drive space and the like, I don't expire that much of
what I get, because it's nice to have full archives of a bunch of stuff.

Directly personal mail, sent or received, only comes up to around 450MB
of that, so I could theoretically junk a large proportion of the rest of
it.

Given that it costs me around AUD$10 to keep the current spool content,
and that cost drops from day to day while the average size of a message
does not increase...

...I just can't see the point in losing that history any more.
     Daniel

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Re: Agent expiry issues

[clemens fischer]

Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>:

> 2.2GB, but it's got quite a few public mailing lists in it. Given the
> falling costs of drive space and the like, I don't expire that much of
> what I get, because it's nice to have full archives of a bunch of stuff.

do you have glimpse or something like it installed?

clemens

Re: Agent expiry issues

[Henrik Enberg]

"clemens fischer" <ino-ee870b58@spotteswoode.de.eu.org> writes:

> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>:
>
>> 2.2GB, but it's got quite a few public mailing lists in it. Given the
>> falling costs of drive space and the like, I don't expire that much of
>> what I get, because it's nice to have full archives of a bunch of stuff.
>
> do you have glimpse or something like it installed?

You should try Kai's nnir.el.  It supports a whole lot of search
engines. 

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Re: Agent expiry issues

[Daniel Pittman]

On 29 Oct 2002, clemens fischer wrote:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>:
> 
>> 2.2GB, but it's got quite a few public mailing lists in it. Given the
>> falling costs of drive space and the like, I don't expire that much
>> of what I get, because it's nice to have full archives of a bunch of
>> stuff.
> 
> do you have glimpse or something like it installed?

swish++ and nnir, though I have been using find and grep more often
recently.

nnir is nice, but I don't get quite the same results from it that I do
from a couple of quick grep invocations. Too much time on the command
line, I think, for a GUI to help ;)

      Daniel

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Re: Agent expiry issues

[Kai Großjohann]

Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:

> nnir is nice, but I don't get quite the same results from it that I do
> from a couple of quick grep invocations. Too much time on the command
> line, I think, for a GUI to help ;)

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a find/grep interface
to nnir.el :-)

There is also a patch from Nevin Kapur to invoke grepmail.  Alas, I
think I haven't incorporated it in nnir.el yet.

kai
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Re: Agent expiry issues

[Daniel Pittman]

On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Kai Großjohann wrote:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
> 
>> nnir is nice, but I don't get quite the same results from it that I
>> do from a couple of quick grep invocations. Too much time on the
>> command line, I think, for a GUI to help ;)
> 
> I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a find/grep interface
> to nnir.el :-)

*grin*  I keep intending to use the swish++ and nnir functionality more
fully, but I keep getting distracted and not learning it because I need
things in a hurry...

> There is also a patch from Nevin Kapur to invoke grepmail.  Alas, I
> think I haven't incorporated it in nnir.el yet.

If I were unhappy with stuff I would try and make a patch, but it seems
very good from experience so far.

     Daniel

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