From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46070 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: TMDA (was: new spam functionality added) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 22:23:25 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87u1m5w14y.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> References: <87y9brejam.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> <873ctztyth.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> <20020801222925.A10502@mastaler.com> <02Aug5.143835edt.119445@gateway.intersystems.com> <02Aug5.174118edt.119294@gateway.intersystems.com> <874re5wvrc.fsf@home.lan> <877kj11ctx.fsf@naz.lickey.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1028838231 8692 127.0.0.1 (8 Aug 2002 20:23:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17ctoz-0002G5-00 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2002 22:23:50 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17ctp2-0003Xt-00; Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:23:52 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 08 Aug 2002 15:24:19 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27617 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:23:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 20687 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 2002 20:23:27 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 20682 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2002 20:23:26 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by gnus.org with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 20:23:26 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17cuA4-0007tC-00 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2002 22:45:36 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: b48sfn.cm.chello.no Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1028839536 30329 213.46.211.96 (8 Aug 2002 20:45:36 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Aug 2002 20:45:36 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, i386-debian-linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1xpZJ1hzb5nQkDl+CmbLnoJXYfk= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46070 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46070 >>>>> Matt Armstrong : > Steinar Bang writes: > All types of automatic replies should go to the envelope sender. Not _all_ types of automatic replies. Bounces should go to the envelope sender, but I can't offhand think of any others that should. > Failure to do that is how you end up with auto-replies getting sent > to mailing lists, etc. A proper auto-replier (I'm guessing you mean a vacation-like program here?) shouldn't be sending a notification in the first place, if the incoming message isn't addressed to the recipient. If an auto-replier in its infinite wisdom decides to send a notification anyway, it shouldn't send it to the envelope address, which in this case is the list manager. It should send it to the address in the From: field, which is supposed to be the address of the person that sent the message to the list. > Probably best to fix your envelope sender. The envelope sender in question, was the default envelope configuraton for exim in debian woody. AFAIR it was the same as the default envelope in SuSE 6.2, ie. username@FQDN. Some people would debate that this is the correct value for the envelope sender.