From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23453 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Bjørn Mork" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: 8Bit Header encoding with Gnus: qp - rfc2047 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:07:00 GMT Organization: Dancing orangutan Department Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87u2s09hrg.fsf@duckman.mork.no> References: <874sk8icup.fsf@fruli.ddns.org> <87n1xy3khu.fsf_-_@fruli.ddns.org> <87zp1ued6k.fsf@fruli.ddns.org> <87674gw9ln.fsf@fruli.ddns.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161183 2088 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:46:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09444 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAB07746; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:07:30 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:08:20 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13977 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:08:04 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sunsite.auc.dk (sunsite.auc.dk [130.225.51.30]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA09385 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 21977 invoked by uid 509); 22 Jun 1999 19:07:02 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: emacs.ding Original-Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070088 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.88) Emacs/20.3.6.1 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.139.120.22 Original-X-Complaints-To: news@sunsite.auc.dk Original-X-Trace: sunsite.auc.dk 930078420 195.139.120.22 (Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:07:00 MET DST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:07:00 MET DST Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23453 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23453 Per Abrahamsen writes: > Ulrich Schwarz writes: > > > Thus, Gnus should use RFC2047 header encoding for news, too. > > Unencoded 8-bit headers are prefered in the dk.* hierarchy, because > that is supported by most news agents in use. I suspect the situation > is the same in the no.* hierarchy. Correct. I believe the same goes for relcom and a few other hierarchies. The header charset must of course also be specified. I must say that I am surprised to hear about flaming based on 8bit chars in Usenet headers. I've posted hundreds of articles in comp, rec, alt, news and a few other hierarchies, and never been flamed (well, at least not for the header encoding :-). All of the articles have had at least one header with 8bit chars (because of my name...) and a working mail address. The reason is of course that 8bit headers don't cause any problems for anybody. The chars may not always look like they were supposed to, but that's not important (I don't care whether people call me Bjørn, Bjxrn, Bj|rn, Bjorn, or Bj€rn). What's important is that rfc2047 really fucks up readers that don't understand it, and makes the text unreadable. I do not like being called =?iso-8859-1?q?Bj=F8rn?=. You will really need your flameproof suit if you post something like that in no.* Therefore 8bit for news and rfc2047 for mail (where you have more control over the client software in the other end) is a reasonable default. But it should be possible to change it based on hierarchy, and IIRC it is. I just don't remember how. Anybody? Bjørn